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(16,620 posts)They just do whatever they want - all those parasites in tech.
Now I am not a writer (as most of the fairly execrable writing in my journal would attest to). But I do love reading - paperbacks or hardcovers, not the kindle. I am not a luddite, but I choose what I use (that came out sounding like something you would find on a ghastly Substack page). And I find ai written writing to have the effect of nails on chalkboard.
It is mimicry. If a human did that, most everyone but the rare super douches (i.e. our industrial and political leaders, their sycophants and media) would find it grating.
I have been looking at some of my own DU journal in distaste. It is not that I disagree with some of it (the parts that are most choleric I certainly agree with .. ;-/..I didnt want my personal signature to be an aspect of myself I dont like that much..).
Something about the insipid corporatized cheeriness of those things (Scarlet Johanssen in Her comes to mind) made me feel that only vicious and dour writing would be human ..But thats also bs. Because it angers me even more when those things start to sound cynical, world-weary, skeptical, sarcastic.
The point is they have no depth. Ed Zitron wrote about it in his piece on Dudesy.
The average woman who starts to sound bitter isnt a damn llm. It is usually someone groped irl by a series of loathsome creeps..bounced out of many jobs and hospitals and so on. Movies and reality tv themselves have started feeling like theft. Even sans ai, the data mining and the commodification of human life is disgusting.
It is lazy. You dont have to use your imagination even as a human when you can scrape the web for content (though ai makes it easier).
My writing is all human written..no bots. But the writing has the same grating, anonymous insipid quality I associate with this sort of person (a nightmarish person who voted for Trump and was boosted by that ass Bill Ackman/Musk etc - Stepfanie Tyler):
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-musk-tech-venture-capital-execs-maga-1235060567/
She apparently voted for HRC and Biden, but had a change of heart
she is also a grifty ai booster.
Anyway, I checked out her blog to see if she has had buyers remorse yet (was curious about this peculiar representative of the vacuous swing voter class) and it isnt clear.
But the writing really struck me in how derivative, insipid and shallow it is.
I dont use ChatGPT since I think it should be..well lets just leave it at this - I reflexively grind my teeth & clench my fists at the thought of ChatGPT ;-/. You know how it is hpd.
But it is also all at the end of the day perilously close to a persona without a definite endpoint as I have which is criminal liability. If the public doesnt start this they will not only destroy all our livelihoods and for these substandard pieces of junk. But also move us further into surveillance states where we can be targeted for retaliation.
If Trump 2.0 isnt the wake up call, what is? Authoritarianism is generally on the rise everywhere. The business class (a small set of small businesses aside) in tech is the instigator of it not against it. They have no real products or services and are engaged in a coup.
Project 2025, the rampant parasitism and destruction of the public sector, attacks on all regulatory bodies is a part of it.
And they cant toss marijuana legalization into that noxious mix. I use pot. I dont steal in depraved ways from other people. All this overexposure is bad for my health and work.
I saw something in Call Me by Your Name (an actual work of art and a favorite of mine -the book and the movie) that struck me..one of the characters says that people who read books like to hide. That actually fits. I have always loved books and I like peace and quiet. The sole reason I regret not having a kid is, I have no one to leave my books to. And I love my home. I HATE encroachment into my home. And that is what these creepy tech cos dont get. I dont want to be connected. This lowers quality of life. Who would choose theft of their life except a grifting future influencer?
Back to why I hate the effect all this has on one..It makes fairly laidback people like me into neurotic people, since I dont like being annoyed with inexplicable drivel affecting my home..it is not even a smart home.
As for my crummy writing, while I am not happy with my skill/knowledge/memory/spatial awareness etc, I do have basic language skills. However, that still doesnt make me a good writer and that isnt a goal anyway. It is offensively like writing like a human llm or logorrhoea. I cant decide which is worse/
A by the book dishonest shrink working with data miners could argue that these lengthy rants with many tangential rambles are like Trumps weave indicative of sickness.
It is all making me furious.
I am pretty sure that woman uses ChatGPT and you can see it in her style. I find it somewhat parasitic to use someone elses ideas or work even with attribution.
I do it only with a specific, definite real world goal - to warn off any ai or data companies. Trying to indicate that Hey, I am wise to you and gearing up to press charges some day if your data hygiene is poor enough that you can read this message posted in an online community anonymously and connect it to me. Dont use my home or devices or street..
Reading that womans blog made me realize why I feel such revulsion. If my posts arent llm written, my whole situation is artificial..
I had this job at a place I really disliked. I didnt want to be this douchebag in bed with some creepy tech cos/spooks. This totally shallow woman with no sense of self who is just batted around..I am not a human research subject.
I do trust the old school NIH, but not once these parasites from Google/Facebook/Musk/Palantir/other small creepy tech cos etc. pile on.
Anyway, I get why my own writing here often disgusts me. I think blatantly artificial situations make people sound like bots. I really dislike the parts of my life that were deformed by these tacky VR or mixed reality adjacent things that this journalist Yasha Levine writes about. Like that movie Existenz. I am not even a gamer.
It made me think back to that hideous job (long before the Sandy Hook conspiracies). Early on a guy sat next to us during a lab lunch at the cafeteria and I caught this snippet of conversation I could believe all the people here are actors.
I found it a baffling statement at the time. Now I figure that is how an alt right troll could think. I usually associate that type of stuff with fishing or authentic paranoia (hard to tell sadly). That sleazy Project Veritas would be an example of astroturf, alt right trolling rather than the more sympathetic actual issue (people who think they are targeted individuals..this tech environment probably doesnt help with that and I am often furious that a simple complaint about deregulated garbage tech will be treated that way. I actually have sympathy for those guys..).
There are even people who think everyone online is a bot and even more scarily might dox someone in their home to verify they are not a bot etc. Or most risibly that a bot has become sentient a la that asinine Google engineer Blake Lemoine.
It is all so daft. The fuss around these stupid llms is inane. And their souped up versions would be more grating - goddamn parlor tricks.
I altogether disapprove of all of it except maybe in rare academic contexts or if DU was trying to handle the bot issue using different strategies. Such rare things I am sympathetic to aside, the stuff I see here or back then, is just outrageous and creepy, where real and can disorient a person and throw off their sense of reality.
This entire set of industries needs draconian oversight and regulation by the left.
These are more tools for these right wing nuts to exploit..