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Igel

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20. And what we've done for the last 20 years has made America healthier?
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 09:49 PM
2 hrs ago

In some ways, yes--sure. But remove smoking, that's a plus.

But recent research--fallow the psy-ants, follow the science--says that milk fatty acids are sort of indeterminate. They don't help, they don't hurt.

So they must be destroyed with fire, I guess.

This is a small sidebar discussion among friends at a side group at a bar following a trial. Not much discussed because it's hard to make distinctions between varieties of saturated fats.

Want the fun bit? "Seed oils." Now that's ear-to-ear mental kudzu.

(Full disclosure. Years ago I read how horrible beef was for the environment--global warming! Even worse, much of the energy used to produce beef was utterly wasted. Which was reported as "food value" or some such verbiage.

(Here's the problem: Fat is high energy, lean meat much lower. I slow-cook my brisket and get a crapload of fat off of it and dump it, that fat's probably got the energy value of the bulk of the mass that I do eat--even worse is when I cut away the fat from the lump of flesh on my plate.

(So I assumed the report as to why cow was bad for atmosphere was right and drew the logical conclusion. To justify cow usage I should use the energy in all that cow fat. So I do. Haven't bought soap in 20 years. All that excess, uneaten cow fat becomes soap. Note that commercial soap also usually uses tallowate. Pig and sheep tallow produces really hard, brittle, soap, beef tallow is pretty good, but still a bit hard and brittle.

(Mixing in my love for outing hypocrisy, fowl may be 'greener' but it, also, has a lot of wasted energy in all the fat. I harvest the schmaltz--yeah, chicken fat, but I extend that to turkey fat--and my cooking 'oil' is about 50-50, schmaltz and maybe rapeseed, maybe peanut, maybe soybean. Lately I've been favoring soybean because soybean farmers and Trump.)

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....the Ag Dept sent a social media post showing Trump with a glass of milk and a "milk mustache" riversedge Wednesday #1
Oh, thats MILK! I thought he'd just had another meeting with Putin. Callie1979 Wednesday #7
First he saves Christmas and now he saves milk! MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #16
OK, I'm not going to lie. mwb970 Wednesday #2
I LOVE whole milk with Oreos. truthisfreedom Wednesday #5
Same here, but I'm not a child and mostly it's on cereal. greatauntoftriplets Wednesday #8
I use it for tea and for some recipes, like soup mwb970 Wednesday #11
Now and then I'll drink from the carton. greatauntoftriplets Wednesday #12
My wife grew up on a diary farm PCB66 11 hrs ago #15
The existence of cream is the justification for skim milk. Igel 2 hrs ago #19
I grew up on a dairy farm so it was allways milk straight from the cows. As an adult riversedge Wednesday #14
TSF hypnotized by milk bottle. Sneederbunk Wednesday #3
Probably dreaming of Vladdy MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #17
Woody Allen predicted the future DBoon Wednesday #4
This is making America healthy again? tishaLA Wednesday #6
And what we've done for the last 20 years has made America healthier? Igel 2 hrs ago #20
Well, in the overall scheme of things, I don't see this as a hill to die on. Kablooie Wednesday #9
Let's talk about ANYTHING other than Epstein. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #10
Trump: I look forward to getting it all the time. I open a refrigerator and I say: milk with rice, milk with water, milk riversedge Wednesday #13
it's said he doesn't drink. Igel 2 hrs ago #21
Boy, when that adderal wears off he crashes hard. travelingthrulife 5 hrs ago #18
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