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LanternWaste

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61. I don't think that an opinion about the guilt or innocence of a person

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:19 PM

Jan 2012

I don't think that an opinion about the guilt or innocence of a person holds any legal relevance, hence, a trial would still be necessary regardless of whether one believes that guilt or innocence.

Additionally, I believe that "innocent until proven guilty" is relevant legally only-- that a layman having no influence on the trial may emphatically state guilty or innocent without any consequences relevant to the accused.

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Fox Anchor Greg Kelly (And Son of NYC Police Commissioner) Accused Of Rape [View all] Tx4obama Jan 2012 OP

Whoa. k/r deacon Jan 2012 #1

I wish her luck. She's gonna need it. nt valerief Jan 2012 #2

You said it. n/t Sera_Bellum Jan 2012 #24

But isn't there something odd about her keeping in touch with him afterwards? cyberpj Jan 2012 #40

my thoughts exactly wordpix Jan 2012 #48

this sounds dubious to me naaman fletcher Jan 2012 #60

Or would have prefered not to have gotten into a stoush with... TheMadMonk Jan 2012 #66

Or, if I wrote novels, maybe set the guy up thinking easy settlement. cyberpj Jan 2012 #67

Maybe he was stalking her and she was telling him to get lost. nt valerief Jan 2012 #68

I love watching Joel McHale make fun of him on The Soup slay Jan 2012 #3

yes those pieces are always funny wordpix Jan 2012 #49

What channel or network? Responder3 Jan 2012 #63

The Soup secondvariety Jan 2012 #64

Another typical gopiscrap Jan 2012 #4

So he's guilty? Renew Deal Jan 2012 #6

True but why would a woman take this kind of risk? caseymoz Jan 2012 #27

It's that type logic that almost sent the Duke lacrosse players to prison SpartanDem Jan 2012 #33

No, that's not the kind of logic that did it. caseymoz Jan 2012 #44

Why? Her boyfriend found out she had cheated on him with Kelly. n/t Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #34

If she's that dumb she'd be in far more trouble far sooner. caseymoz Jan 2012 #46

Not dumb - she just knows she won't be charged for filing a false report. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #52

She won't? You could cite the law on this? caseymoz Jan 2012 #55

Wait, afterthought. This might have happened: caseymoz Jan 2012 #59

Or, gee, a "sex in the work-place" fantasy..... PavePusher Jan 2012 #75

No, it's just your knowledge is limited by your poor reading. caseymoz Jan 2012 #77

Perhaps you missed my last sentance. Have a good night. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author caseymoz Jan 2012 #79

No, I didn't. caseymoz Jan 2012 #80

Her cat will probably end up dead rusty fender Jan 2012 #35

The hornets she's kicked up don't have to be that passive-aggressive. caseymoz Jan 2012 #47

Haven't you heard? Trials are passe' now. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #37

Not a trial, I'm just guessing. caseymoz Jan 2012 #51

I don't think that an opinion about the guilt or innocence of a person LanternWaste Jan 2012 #61

They are only investigating..............he hasnt been convicted so tad early to be bashing him. nt cstanleytech Jan 2012 #7

Not too early IMHO since 'Cons have a history of perverted sexual behavior. nt live love laugh Jan 2012 #8

And Dems don't. Weiner doesn't ring a bell?! n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #12

I'm pretty sure 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #13

Who cheats most isnt the point though its that as of now this is only cstanleytech Jan 2012 #15

well I was thinking 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #16

There are plenty of Dems do a search. vaberella Jan 2012 #58

Weiner hardly did anything wrong. His communications were text and phone calls and N7Shepard Jan 2012 #21

I agree 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #22

I think flirting and rape are pretty different. harmonicon Jan 2012 #14

Only if you're a Democrat. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #28

Thank you for saying that. IOKIYAR is the policy ... prairierose Jan 2012 #29

Sounds like your apologising for the man. vaberella Jan 2012 #57

Not Innocent? He didn't commit a crime. harmonicon Jan 2012 #65

Right. But he's not free from being classed as a sexual pervert which you seem to be arguing. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #71

or, as people in other countries call it, a person. nt. harmonicon Jan 2012 #72

That's kinda my premise also gopiscrap Jan 2012 #30

Silly question: is he known to be a Republican with certainty? nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #43

Wow .... Trajan Jan 2012 #17

At the rate we're going, it won't be long before we're taking GOP loyalty oaths. Octafish Jan 2012 #20

AGREED!!!! gopiscrap Jan 2012 #31

Yep, sounds like that may well describe this likely false accuser. n/t Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #10

Rape has nothing to do with party affiliation. Beacool Jan 2012 #73

A sketchy case - I'd be surprised if a DA entertains prosecution BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #5

They continued phone and text contact with each other after the incident, and Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #9

It could be a false report, but people do different things when faced with chrisa Jan 2012 #56

I predict that all this incident will do is tarnish Mister Kelly's reputation (such as it is). MADem Jan 2012 #11

I agree Mz Pip Jan 2012 #32

I withhold judgment on this one. chrisa Jan 2012 #18

I guess it kind of 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #23

She didn't report it when he found out - he did. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #25

He went and accused the Commissioner's son of ruining his girlfriend's life chrisa Jan 2012 #26

reporting a "rape" 3 mos. after it happened doesn't pass the smell test wordpix Jan 2012 #50

Not exactly - many don't report rape until years after it happened, or even at all chrisa Jan 2012 #54

Holy shit. originalpckelly Jan 2012 #19

String the fucker up! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #36

Yeah! Right next to the boys from the Duke Lacrosse team, right? Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #39

I thought "If he is guilty" part was implied. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #45

No, what you implied was that he is guilty. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #53

No it wasn't. Not in the slightest. n/t whopis01 Jan 2012 #62

Keep it in the familiy Vidar Jan 2012 #38

In "The Goodbye Girl", Marsha Mason's character threatens to cry "rape!" if Richard closeupready Jan 2012 #41

The details make me hold back a bit on this one: cyberpj Jan 2012 #42

You suppose Faux News will find this newsworthy? - n/t primavera Jan 2012 #69

I really hope no national media finds it "newsworthy" until some actual evidence can be displayed. PavePusher Jan 2012 #76

Ironic! Impossible to even guess from the facts that I have read whether she is telling the truth. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #70

"The two continued to have contact by phone and text message after the encounter." tawadi Jan 2012 #74