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In reply to the discussion: Leftist and liberal gun groups are seeing a rush of new members [View all]J_William_Ryan
(3,404 posts)22. "a hypothetical future tyrannical government"
Theres nothing in the history, text, or case law of the Second Amendment that authorizes private citizens to take up arms in violent rebellion against a lawfully established government perceived to have become 'tyrannical' conservatives who make such an argument are factually wrong.
The Framers would never amend the Constitution to authorize the destruction of the Republic they just created.
The Second Amendment codifies an individual right to self-defense, and to possess a firearm pursuant to that right such as defending against criminals seeking to do harm.
And that those criminals seeking to do harm might be Federal agents doesnt mitigate that right.
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What if these "left-leaning gun rights activists" are buying guns to protect their homes from ICE because
in2herbs
Yesterday
#1
"NOT GUILTY" for the occupants, after ICE agents get themselves shot while breaking into those homes....
Jack Valentino
21 hrs ago
#15
I am reminded more and more of the Frederick Douglas quote about the fugitive slave act:
Jack Valentino
21 hrs ago
#16
I find this very sad. Not that people are buying guns and learning how to use them.
flashman13
Yesterday
#6
They were RIGHT--- that is, CORRECT--- that the 2nd Amendment could be a defense against
Jack Valentino
21 hrs ago
#18
In the gun culture they believe that the Second Amendment is the holy grail of the Constitution.
flashman13
19 hrs ago
#32
Too small a caliber---- if you choose to employ DEADLY FORCE for self-defense,
Jack Valentino
20 hrs ago
#19
You may be quite correct--- and as I stated a .22 can be quite lethal---
Jack Valentino
20 hrs ago
#23
That gun was 'standard issue' for almost 100 years..... for US Armed forces....
Jack Valentino
19 hrs ago
#28
Yep, first sidearm I carried in Vietnam, along with my M-14, and later, my M-16. nt
MarineCombatEngineer
9 hrs ago
#37
For those interested, this is a great gun club for Liberals/Progressives:
MarineCombatEngineer
23 hrs ago
#12
My best friend lives in Tempe AZ, and we often discussed the gun laws there....
Jack Valentino
20 hrs ago
#24
in July of 2010, AZ became a constitutional carry state, however to conceal carry in other states
MarineCombatEngineer
9 hrs ago
#36
I've had guns for years. Grew up with them. Got my CC permit as soon as my state allowed it.
Seeking Serenity
23 hrs ago
#13
"...feel the need to violently protect themselves from fellow Americans."
J_William_Ryan
20 hrs ago
#20