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In reply to the discussion: Biden On Guns: Executive Order Is On The Table [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)83. GUESS WHAT? Gunowner Rights Protected By ObamaCare...
Betcha no one saw that one coming, huh?
Gunowner Rights Protected By ObamaCare
by Whoopie 9 January, 2013
Ive been hearing reports that primary care physicians are now required by ObamaCare to ask their patients if they own any guns and report that information to the government. The doctors are given forms that they must fill out and the question is a simple yes or no, there are no other options to allow for the patient to object or refuse to answer.
Ironically, it appears that the question itself is unlawful. There is a provision in ObamaCare called Protection of of 2nd Amendment Rights that was inserted in the law by none other than Harry Reid. He says he did it as a way to avoid the NRA becoming involved in drafting the law (apparently unbeknownst to Nancy Pelosi, the Democrat Party or the government printing office that created the forms doctors must fill out).
Senate Amendment 3276, Section 2716 part c reads: The government cannot collect any information relating to: A) Lawful ownership of a firearm or ammunition.
This puts physicians between a rock and hard place. By law they cant ask that question and yet, by law they must. Its a testament how clumsily drafted ObamaCare is. That nobody, from the Congress who passed it to the various agencies who enforce it to the individual citizens who are bound by it, truly knows or understands it.
See the CNN video at the link below. The OP video shows that with the NRA included in those meetings, the furor over this announcement is conspiracy theory hysteria. Flame away.
http://blurbrain.com/gunowner-rights-protected-by-obamacare/
Gunowner Rights Protected By ObamaCare
by Whoopie 9 January, 2013
Ive been hearing reports that primary care physicians are now required by ObamaCare to ask their patients if they own any guns and report that information to the government. The doctors are given forms that they must fill out and the question is a simple yes or no, there are no other options to allow for the patient to object or refuse to answer.
Ironically, it appears that the question itself is unlawful. There is a provision in ObamaCare called Protection of of 2nd Amendment Rights that was inserted in the law by none other than Harry Reid. He says he did it as a way to avoid the NRA becoming involved in drafting the law (apparently unbeknownst to Nancy Pelosi, the Democrat Party or the government printing office that created the forms doctors must fill out).
Senate Amendment 3276, Section 2716 part c reads: The government cannot collect any information relating to: A) Lawful ownership of a firearm or ammunition.
This puts physicians between a rock and hard place. By law they cant ask that question and yet, by law they must. Its a testament how clumsily drafted ObamaCare is. That nobody, from the Congress who passed it to the various agencies who enforce it to the individual citizens who are bound by it, truly knows or understands it.
See the CNN video at the link below. The OP video shows that with the NRA included in those meetings, the furor over this announcement is conspiracy theory hysteria. Flame away.
http://blurbrain.com/gunowner-rights-protected-by-obamacare/
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Yeah, American citizens that don't associate with terrorists are safe. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Jan 2013
#24
I'm not paranoid enough to believe the government is targeting the average Joe...
Comrade_McKenzie
Jan 2013
#99
Obama should executive order that all legal guns are WMD & treat them like terrorists are treated
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#5
My first amendment right is violated by some stupid ass reading of 2nd by corrupt court
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#63
all we need is a new interpretation by a different court-by end of Hillary45, in 2025
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#90
It will be interesting to see what he can do. The scope of Executive Orders is limited.
Xithras
Jan 2013
#28
No one knows what EO he could issue...my point is that great care must be taken.
TheProgressive
Jan 2013
#61
Exactly correct...the time for "conversation" with the gun nut assholes is over
alcibiades_mystery
Jan 2013
#31
Congress sat on their hands and did nothing after Congresswoman Giffords was shot
rightsideout
Jan 2013
#22
Fast. Walmart meets with him tomorrow and has pulled some gun types off of sales.
Sunlei
Jan 2013
#25
Walmart changed their mind today and will meet tomorrow, they are USA top gun seller
Sunlei
Jan 2013
#40
They already have some kind of registry?. mexico was asking for the names and addresses.
Sunlei
Jan 2013
#41
An executive order that will just be undone by the next (R) president, instead of real reform.
Socal31
Jan 2013
#60
Obama has stated he will do whatever is in his power and if Congress sits on their butts they might
Thinkingabout
Jan 2013
#71
Excellent, All Necessary First Steps Toward Repealing The 2nd Amendment - Thank You Joe!
cantbeserious
Jan 2013
#76
This will probably get me banned, but the truth is often an invitation to hate:
fiddlesticks
Jan 2013
#78
Interesting, since our pediatrician ask about general hazards in and around the home.
Claybrains
Jan 2013
#107
What slippery slope? Only slippery for those who carpet their home with banana peels.
freshwest
Jan 2013
#109
I didn't say it should be. It's what the law states, CT hysteria to the contrary.
freshwest
Jan 2013
#114
What made you say slippery slope? It sounded like you were against gun control.
freshwest
Jan 2013
#121
The sooner the better, to stem all this absurd & obscene hoarding & stockpiling of guns ~nt
99th_Monkey
Jan 2013
#91