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3. A Private Call Reveals Democrats' Desperation Over Tossing of Map (NYT gift article)
Sun May 10, 2026, 05:16 PM
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I personally believe that given the ruling by Alito and other GOP gerrymandering, the steps outlined here are appropriate.



https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/10/us/politics/democrats-virginia-plans-gerrymandering.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hVA.KzAI.Wf17nRa9PSjl&smid=nytcore-ios-share

During a private discussion on Saturday that included Democratic House members from Virginia and Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the minority leader, the lawmakers vented anger at their defeat at the Virginia Supreme Court, spoke about a collective determination to flip two or three Republican-held seats under the existing map and discussed a bank-shot proposal to redraw the congressional lines anyway, according to three people who participated in the call and two others who were briefed on it.....

Any plans to enact a new congressional map for this year’s midterm elections would require action in the next few days. In a court filing last month, Steven Koski, the commissioner of the Virginia Department of Elections, said any changes to the maps after Tuesday, May 12, “will significantly increase the risk” of his agency being unable to properly prepare for the state’s scheduled Aug. 4 primary election......

One key to the plan would be having Democrats in Richmond lower the mandatory retirement age for state Supreme Court justices, an idea that began circulating among state lawmakers and members of Congress after a column proposing a version of the idea was published on Friday night in The Downballot, a progressive newsletter.

Ms. Spanberger would have to sign off on any legislation that lowered the judicial retirement age. She has not been briefed on the proposal, the people involved in the discussion or briefed on it said. Her spokeswoman, Libby Wiet, declined to comment.

The first step in the process, as discussed on the delegation’s call, would be to invoke a January ruling by a circuit court judge in Tazewell County, Va., that said the 2026 constitutional amendment effort to redraw the maps was invalid because county officials did not post notice of it at courthouses and other public locations three months before a general election.

Representative Suhas Subramanyam, a Democrat who represents Loudoun County, Va., said in an interview that he supported doing whatever was necessary to preserve the map voters approved in last month’s referendum — including replacing the state’s Supreme Court justices.

Everyone has got to have a strong stomach right now; this is a complete disaster waiting to happen if people are timid,” said Mr. Subramanyam, who was on the Saturday call. “We have Republican states ignoring their constitutions and interrupting early voting and ignoring their Supreme Courts all together. We know based on that, Republicans would explore every single option possible to move this forward.”....

In an interview on Friday night, before his Saturday meeting with Virginia lawmakers, Mr. Jeffries said he was “exploring how to unravel this decision.”

“It’s an all-hands-on-deck moment, and it’s unprecedented in American history as far as we can tell that an actual election has been overturned by a handful of unelected judges,” Mr. Jeffries said. “We’re not going to step back, we will continue to fight back.”

This is a very aggressive plan which could backfire. However, this plan may be necessary to stop trump's gerrymandering.

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As the kids say, Do It! Do It! Do It! Chasstev365 Sunday #1
I'm equally angry, but is there no alternative solution? This freaks me out--especially with the timing. hlthe2b Sunday #2
When faced with an existential threat, tomorrow can wait. paleotn Sunday #17
SCOTUS went nuclear first Bobstandard Sunday #28
GOP SCOTUS went nuclear with in 2000 with Bush vs Gore ruling DemocracyForever Yesterday #34
Valid argument. We weren't first to act. paleotn 14 hrs ago #46
I have great doubts about whether Gov Spanberger would go for it. scipan Sunday #29
A Private Call Reveals Democrats' Desperation Over Tossing of Map (NYT gift article) LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #3
Original title: Fiendish Thingy Sunday #4
Speaking as a Virginia Democrat" AverageOldGuy Sunday #5
This orangecrush Sunday #24
We don't have to do any of that to achieve new lines for 2028 FBaggins Sunday #27
That's a mistake, IMHO RussBLib Sunday #6
My thinking, Give the Virginia SC ONE warning that this is what will be done if they refuse. BUT bluestarone Sunday #7
Virginia Supreme , intelpug 23 hrs ago #37
If they fucking refuse what? They already made their fucking horseshit ruling. Warning time is motherfucking over. SoFlaBro 6 hrs ago #53
When republicans pull similar actions to combat Democrats, their members don't worry about it, they just do it. MLWR Sunday #8
They're doing that in Iowa too Bettie 19 hrs ago #42
Whether they should do it or not... DET Sunday #9
Democrats need to start taking bold and decisive actions. magicarpet Sunday #10
That is your perception Boo1 Sunday #31
what if the new court rules the same? msongs Sunday #11
Make sure it doesn't. paleotn Sunday #16
what if the new court rules the differently? Torchlight 19 hrs ago #41
Think about what happens if we let the GOP redistricting advantage cost us the House. SamuelAdams Sunday #12
Dems eye 'audacious' secret plan to oust entire blue state Supreme Court: report LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #13
Bottom line, if Democrats have any political courage at all, they will tear it down and then rebuild PatrickforB Sunday #14
Flip the script. Rethugs would start doing this Monday 8am. NoMoreRepugs Sunday #15
give it a go, magats would DoBW Sunday #18
Do it! nt in2herbs Sunday #19
Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures. If we don't take the house back in November, we lose our demcracy. Fil1957 Sunday #20
Just do whatever Republicans would do and tell everyone to f**k off. rickford66 Sunday #21
Is this really dramatic? Zelda_Orchid Sunday #22
DO IT DO IT DO IT orangecrush Sunday #23
That's a pretty aggressive proposal. NH Ethylene Sunday #25
Ohio Repugs ignored their state supreme court when it came to redistricting mikewv Sunday #26
Mike Dewine specifically multiple times... OhioBack2Blue 20 hrs ago #38
They should follow West Virginia's example. Lasher Sunday #30
well there's Spanberger, Ms bipartisan. and IF they can't cheat, we scipan Sunday #32
I hope they find a way to make lemonade out of this lemon juice. COL Mustard Sunday #33
My prediction LPBBEAR Yesterday #35
You made your ruling now enforce it! bluestateboomer Yesterday #36
Dems cry saying they are "playing by the rules" OhioBack2Blue 20 hrs ago #39
Maybe I am missing something dsc 19 hrs ago #40
Would require constitutional amendment Shrek 16 hrs ago #45
OK that makes sense dsc 12 hrs ago #47
It isn't "pushing through a gerrymandered map," intheflow 18 hrs ago #43
This isn't the first time that a constitutional amendment passed by voters was overturned by courts. MichMan 17 hrs ago #44
That was the national court dsc 12 hrs ago #48
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan 11 hrs ago #51
Test Run Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #49
Trump Wins Big as Virginia Dems Won't Go Nuclear to Save 4 House Seats LetMyPeopleVote 11 hrs ago #50
If we lose by a few votes duckworth969 7 hrs ago #52
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