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In reply to the discussion: Supreme Court spares life of convicted murderer with low IQ [View all]mahatmakanejeeves
(70,795 posts)6. Thomas dissented separately to remind everyone he wants to (and would) write the 8th Amendment out of the Constitution.
Chris Geidner
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
Thomas dissented separately to remind everyone that he wants to and would write the Eighth Amendment out of the Constitution.
Chris Geidner
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
· 2h
Usually, we wouldn't know the vote in a DIG, but there are three writings accompanying the DIG in Hamm v. Smith.
Sotomayor, joined by Jackson, wrote a concurring opinion.
Alito wrote a dissent, joined by Thomas and partially joined by Roberts and Gorsuch.
Thomas also wrote his own dissent.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE JACKSON joins,
concurring.
I concur in the Courts decision to dismiss the writ of cer-
tiorari as improvidently granted. I write separately for two
reasons. First, based on the evidentiary record and how
this litigation proceeded below, I explain why the Court
should not and cannot use this case to address how courts
must analyze multiple IQ scores under Atkins v. Virginia,
536 U. S. 304 (2002). Second, I point out how the principal
dissents discussion of this Courts precedents and the sci-
entific consensus about how courts should evaluate multi-
ple IQ scores is incomplete and potentially misleading.
ALT
ALITO, J., dissenting
* * *
The lower courts IQ analysis was flawed at every stage
of this litigation. Because the courts below have yet to pro-
vide a sound basis for granting Smith Atkins relief, the
Court should reverse the Eleventh Circuits decision and re-
mand this case for further proceedings.
ALT
THOMAS, J., dissenting
III
Some of our most egregious cases have been those in
which we have granted relief based on an unfounded Eighth
Amendment claim, and Atkins is certainly near the top of
the list. Glossip v. Gross, 576 U. S. 863, 905906 (2015)
(THOMAS, J., concurring). Atkinss rejection of the histori-
cal meaning of the [Eighth] Amendmen[t], see Ramos, 590
U. S., at 106, has denied the justice governments have
given to murder victims from time immemorial, Glossip,
576 U. S., at 905906 (THOMAS, J., concurring). And it de-
grades the mildly intellectually disabled by putting them
on a level with . . . infants, imbeciles, and domestic ani-
malsthose who cannot have known better. C. S.
Lewis, The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment, 13 Issues
in Religion and Psychotherapy 147, 151 (1987); see Atkins,
536 U. S., at 318, 319320. In a future case, the Court
should overrule Atkins and restore the Cruel and Unusual
Punishments Clauses fixed meaning in resolving any chal-
lenge brought under it. Grants Pass, 603 U. S., at 562
(THOMAS, J., concurring). For now, I respectfully dissent.
ALT
10:47 AM · May 21, 2026
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
Thomas dissented separately to remind everyone that he wants to and would write the Eighth Amendment out of the Constitution.
Chris Geidner
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
· 2h
Usually, we wouldn't know the vote in a DIG, but there are three writings accompanying the DIG in Hamm v. Smith.
Sotomayor, joined by Jackson, wrote a concurring opinion.
Alito wrote a dissent, joined by Thomas and partially joined by Roberts and Gorsuch.
Thomas also wrote his own dissent.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE JACKSON joins,
concurring.
I concur in the Courts decision to dismiss the writ of cer-
tiorari as improvidently granted. I write separately for two
reasons. First, based on the evidentiary record and how
this litigation proceeded below, I explain why the Court
should not and cannot use this case to address how courts
must analyze multiple IQ scores under Atkins v. Virginia,
536 U. S. 304 (2002). Second, I point out how the principal
dissents discussion of this Courts precedents and the sci-
entific consensus about how courts should evaluate multi-
ple IQ scores is incomplete and potentially misleading.
ALT
ALITO, J., dissenting
* * *
The lower courts IQ analysis was flawed at every stage
of this litigation. Because the courts below have yet to pro-
vide a sound basis for granting Smith Atkins relief, the
Court should reverse the Eleventh Circuits decision and re-
mand this case for further proceedings.
ALT
THOMAS, J., dissenting
III
Some of our most egregious cases have been those in
which we have granted relief based on an unfounded Eighth
Amendment claim, and Atkins is certainly near the top of
the list. Glossip v. Gross, 576 U. S. 863, 905906 (2015)
(THOMAS, J., concurring). Atkinss rejection of the histori-
cal meaning of the [Eighth] Amendmen[t], see Ramos, 590
U. S., at 106, has denied the justice governments have
given to murder victims from time immemorial, Glossip,
576 U. S., at 905906 (THOMAS, J., concurring). And it de-
grades the mildly intellectually disabled by putting them
on a level with . . . infants, imbeciles, and domestic ani-
malsthose who cannot have known better. C. S.
Lewis, The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment, 13 Issues
in Religion and Psychotherapy 147, 151 (1987); see Atkins,
536 U. S., at 318, 319320. In a future case, the Court
should overrule Atkins and restore the Cruel and Unusual
Punishments Clauses fixed meaning in resolving any chal-
lenge brought under it. Grants Pass, 603 U. S., at 562
(THOMAS, J., concurring). For now, I respectfully dissent.
ALT
10:47 AM · May 21, 2026
Thomas dissented separately to remind everyone that he wants to â and would â write the Eighth Amendment out of the Constitution.
— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2026-05-21T14:47:11.577Z
Chris Geidner
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
Usually, we wouldn't know the vote in a DIG, but there are three writings accompanying the DIG in Hamm v. Smith.
Sotomayor, joined by Jackson, wrote a concurring opinion.
Alito wrote a dissent, joined by Thomas and partially joined by Roberts and Gorsuch.
Thomas also wrote his own dissent.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE JACKSON joins,
concurring.
I concur in the Courts decision to dismiss the writ of cer-
tiorari as improvidently granted. I write separately for two
reasons. First, based on the evidentiary record and how
this litigation proceeded below, I explain why the Court
should not and cannot use this case to address how courts
must analyze multiple IQ scores under Atkins v. Virginia,
536 U. S. 304 (2002). Second, I point out how the principal
dissents discussion of this Courts precedents and the sci-
entific consensus about how courts should evaluate multi-
ple IQ scores is incomplete and potentially misleading.
ALT
ALITO, J., dissenting
* * *
The lower courts IQ analysis was flawed at every stage
of this litigation. Because the courts below have yet to pro-
vide a sound basis for granting Smith Atkins relief, the
Court should reverse the Eleventh Circuits decision and re-
mand this case for further proceedings.
ALT
THOMAS, J., dissenting
III
Some of our most egregious cases have been those in
which we have granted relief based on an unfounded Eighth
Amendment claim, and Atkins is certainly near the top of
the list. Glossip v. Gross, 576 U. S. 863, 905906 (2015)
(THOMAS, J., concurring). Atkinss rejection of the histori-
cal meaning of the [Eighth] Amendmen[t], see Ramos, 590
U. S., at 106, has denied the justice governments have
given to murder victims from time immemorial, Glossip,
576 U. S., at 905906 (THOMAS, J., concurring). And it de-
grades the mildly intellectually disabled by putting them
on a level with . . . infants, imbeciles, and domestic ani-
malsthose who cannot have known better. C. S.
Lewis, The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment, 13 Issues
in Religion and Psychotherapy 147, 151 (1987); see Atkins,
536 U. S., at 318, 319320. In a future case, the Court
should overrule Atkins and restore the Cruel and Unusual
Punishments Clauses fixed meaning in resolving any chal-
lenge brought under it. Grants Pass, 603 U. S., at 562
(THOMAS, J., concurring). For now, I respectfully dissent.
ALT
10:33 AM · May 21, 2026
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
Usually, we wouldn't know the vote in a DIG, but there are three writings accompanying the DIG in Hamm v. Smith.
Sotomayor, joined by Jackson, wrote a concurring opinion.
Alito wrote a dissent, joined by Thomas and partially joined by Roberts and Gorsuch.
Thomas also wrote his own dissent.
JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR, with whom JUSTICE JACKSON joins,
concurring.
I concur in the Courts decision to dismiss the writ of cer-
tiorari as improvidently granted. I write separately for two
reasons. First, based on the evidentiary record and how
this litigation proceeded below, I explain why the Court
should not and cannot use this case to address how courts
must analyze multiple IQ scores under Atkins v. Virginia,
536 U. S. 304 (2002). Second, I point out how the principal
dissents discussion of this Courts precedents and the sci-
entific consensus about how courts should evaluate multi-
ple IQ scores is incomplete and potentially misleading.
ALT
ALITO, J., dissenting
* * *
The lower courts IQ analysis was flawed at every stage
of this litigation. Because the courts below have yet to pro-
vide a sound basis for granting Smith Atkins relief, the
Court should reverse the Eleventh Circuits decision and re-
mand this case for further proceedings.
ALT
THOMAS, J., dissenting
III
Some of our most egregious cases have been those in
which we have granted relief based on an unfounded Eighth
Amendment claim, and Atkins is certainly near the top of
the list. Glossip v. Gross, 576 U. S. 863, 905906 (2015)
(THOMAS, J., concurring). Atkinss rejection of the histori-
cal meaning of the [Eighth] Amendmen[t], see Ramos, 590
U. S., at 106, has denied the justice governments have
given to murder victims from time immemorial, Glossip,
576 U. S., at 905906 (THOMAS, J., concurring). And it de-
grades the mildly intellectually disabled by putting them
on a level with . . . infants, imbeciles, and domestic ani-
malsthose who cannot have known better. C. S.
Lewis, The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment, 13 Issues
in Religion and Psychotherapy 147, 151 (1987); see Atkins,
536 U. S., at 318, 319320. In a future case, the Court
should overrule Atkins and restore the Cruel and Unusual
Punishments Clauses fixed meaning in resolving any chal-
lenge brought under it. Grants Pass, 603 U. S., at 562
(THOMAS, J., concurring). For now, I respectfully dissent.
ALT
10:33 AM · May 21, 2026
Usually, we wouldn't know the vote in a DIG, but there are three writings accompanying the DIG in Hamm v. Smith.
— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2026-05-21T14:33:44.044Z
Sotomayor, joined by Jackson, wrote a concurring opinion.
Alito wrote a dissent, joined by Thomas and partially joined by Roberts and Gorsuch.
Thomas also wrote his own dissent.
Chris Geidner
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
Here's the DIG and opinions: www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25p...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-872_ec8f.pdf
www.supremecourt.gov
10:37 AM · May 21, 2026
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social
Here's the DIG and opinions: www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25p...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-872_ec8f.pdf
www.supremecourt.gov
10:37 AM · May 21, 2026
Here's the DIG and opinions: www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25p...
— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2026-05-21T14:37:00.892Z
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mahatmakanejeeves
10 hrs ago
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Yes. Part of the appeals court that rushed the first federal execution in 17 years for TCF in 2020
JT45242
4 hrs ago
#7
Thomas dissented separately to remind everyone he wants to (and would) write the 8th Amendment out of the Constitution.
mahatmakanejeeves
8 hrs ago
#6