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In reply to the discussion: Judge won't block New York City circumcision law [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)104. The article is about 2 methods. NOWHERE is this about not doing one, just the method involved.
PLEASE NOTE-the above article anyhow does NOT say it wants to ban the circumcision as a whole. It wants to alert the parents about the very little chance of side effect of one method over a second, and to do a different technique
Either way, the circumcision will occur, and it is with parents knowledge.
but it reminds me
Wait for consent til a child is an adult?
There are people that believe quacks like Wakefield and won't vaccinate.
By then they will be dead, because they did not get a vaccination that can save ones life
believing a quack like Wakefield who lied so often, the mantra took hold and people stopped gettting shots (much like this year so many have not gotten flu shots.)
It has allowed horrible childhood diseases to come back that were completely eradicated because of a stupid mantra oft repeated by the quackWakefieldquack.
This is a proven thing that increases safety in adulthood, and is recomended for all, same as the gardasil vaccine should be made manditory for all (including boys), and so should the pnemonia shot as so many who had the flu or a bad cold develop bacterial pnemonia and
that is directly stopped prehand from happening in a great percentage of times by the vaccine.
I assume some would say that giving a child a shot without their adult consent would also be
some sort of abuse as the child gave no consent.
A parent has the right to give consent on a child.
As the Jewish religion to a Jewish person (whcih is what the Original article is) has a known routine after the birth of a child, parental permission is indeed given, as the Rabbi, or Jewish
leader comes into the room at the invitation of the family and it is talked about beforehand.
PLEASE NOTE-the above article anyhow does NOT say it wants to ban the circumcision as a whole. It wants to alert the parents about the very little chance of side effect, and do a different technique.
It says NOTHING about doing away with the circumcision itself.
So its just the method being discussed.
In reality, any other talk about this is off topic of the original article and in all cases, in the Jewish religion, the religius leader comes into the room at the express invitation of the parents.
(after all, how would they know the person is Jewish to start off with, unless they are asked
to by the parent(s)???
Especially in New York City, which is the singular most diverse city in the world and no hospital
that is solely one religion over another.
(note for openess and talking about the thread, I am Jewish with child and know this above in a hospital, as a fact, it is NOT done secretly, the parents are indeed involved.
This is solely a medical issue on which technique, not a do it/ don't do it altogether argument.
Either way, the circumcision will occur, and it is with parents knowledge.
but it reminds me
Wait for consent til a child is an adult?
There are people that believe quacks like Wakefield and won't vaccinate.
By then they will be dead, because they did not get a vaccination that can save ones life
believing a quack like Wakefield who lied so often, the mantra took hold and people stopped gettting shots (much like this year so many have not gotten flu shots.)
It has allowed horrible childhood diseases to come back that were completely eradicated because of a stupid mantra oft repeated by the quackWakefieldquack.
This is a proven thing that increases safety in adulthood, and is recomended for all, same as the gardasil vaccine should be made manditory for all (including boys), and so should the pnemonia shot as so many who had the flu or a bad cold develop bacterial pnemonia and
that is directly stopped prehand from happening in a great percentage of times by the vaccine.
I assume some would say that giving a child a shot without their adult consent would also be
some sort of abuse as the child gave no consent.
A parent has the right to give consent on a child.
As the Jewish religion to a Jewish person (whcih is what the Original article is) has a known routine after the birth of a child, parental permission is indeed given, as the Rabbi, or Jewish
leader comes into the room at the invitation of the family and it is talked about beforehand.
PLEASE NOTE-the above article anyhow does NOT say it wants to ban the circumcision as a whole. It wants to alert the parents about the very little chance of side effect, and do a different technique.
It says NOTHING about doing away with the circumcision itself.
So its just the method being discussed.
In reality, any other talk about this is off topic of the original article and in all cases, in the Jewish religion, the religius leader comes into the room at the express invitation of the parents.
(after all, how would they know the person is Jewish to start off with, unless they are asked
to by the parent(s)???
Especially in New York City, which is the singular most diverse city in the world and no hospital
that is solely one religion over another.
(note for openess and talking about the thread, I am Jewish with child and know this above in a hospital, as a fact, it is NOT done secretly, the parents are indeed involved.
This is solely a medical issue on which technique, not a do it/ don't do it altogether argument.
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The juries are a popularity contest - if you're popular you can say shit. If not, you get hidden. nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#54
Circumcision is a cosmetic procedure. So baby's wee wee looks like daddy's wee wee.
McCamy Taylor
Jan 2013
#45
Parents make all sorts of decisions that have real and permanent consequences for their kids.
eggplant
Jan 2013
#58
Discussions on DU are usually wide ranging, frequently OT, + you don't get to be the thread director
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#74
Oh yes. Its just more horrific added onto more horrific for me. Agreed. nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#114
Yes, it is so far fetched to imagine that there perverts posing as religious leaders.
pennylane100
Jan 2013
#19
One who wasn't aware of the details of the procedure and hires a mohel who uses this technique.
eggplant
Jan 2013
#10
Yes, it is politically motivated. For quite a while, the Peds said "No" to circumcision.
McCamy Taylor
Jan 2013
#44
For those who say circumcism prevents disease....prophylactic mastectomy of all women would prevent
McCamy Taylor
Jan 2013
#46
Imagine if the female "circumcism" was performed "medically" and sanctified by the Rabbi's
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#50
How are both gender genitals false equivalency? And breathtaking bigotry...please, proceed???
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#75
And it matters not which gender is experiencing the religious mouth or the knife...I think we are in
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#91
Thanks for keeping this kicked! I had a notice it did not comply with rules and link
SugarShack
Jan 2013
#71
Yes, the only points family and doctor could make for my infant son was it's basic procedure
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#93
There is no logical modern parsing of this issue of ritual male bloodletting other than hygiene.
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#79
Every single parent who consents to this needs their kids taken away. Period.
ButterflyBlood
Jan 2013
#96
The article is about 2 methods. NOWHERE is this about not doing one, just the method involved.
graham4anything
Jan 2013
#104
They clearly don't want to follow up on this. Lots of noise on marijuana in NY now....
SugarShack
Jan 2013
#106
If I were DA in NY EVER SINGLE mohel who's ever done this would get child molestation charges filed
ButterflyBlood
Jan 2013
#110
IMHO cut cocks are far better, but I don't see the need to do this on children
SWTORFanatic
Jan 2013
#111