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78. How can you be sure what the agenda of the AI programmer is? Like an algorithm, it can steer us in the direction

Thu Jun 11, 2026, 11:18 AM

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Google and their paying advertisers want. I agree that the results are often good ones. But it gives Google too much influence over the results they want to influence. AI is only as good or as accurate as the programming that produced it. I believe the court is ruling in favor of objective results that are not influenced by Google's agenda. Purely objective results may not be achievable, but AI makes it possible to put a pretty heavy thumb on the scale.

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Nobody needs AI to search the Internet, court says in ruling against Google [View all] highplainsdem Yesterday OP

Wow, this is a great ruling. I hope it holds! SunSeeker Yesterday #1

Outside of the issue of defamatory statements... reACTIONary Yesterday #2

You can find them useful. Doesn't change the fact that AI isn't necessary for the task, which these companies are all Karasu Yesterday #4

Nobody is forcing users to use AI.... reACTIONary 23 hrs ago #13

Um..yes, they are. "Scrolling down" doesn't change that. Companies forcing the use of AI goes MUCH farther than simple Karasu 23 hrs ago #17

Unless you check everything in the AI overview - every alleged fact, every quote, every source - you highplainsdem Yesterday #5

It's not really that hard to check it out.... reACTIONary 23 hrs ago #12

LOL! In other words, you don't check. And it sounds as if you'd use AI overviews you hadn't bothered highplainsdem 21 hrs ago #31

If you look at a page from a "regular" web page search, do you.... reACTIONary 20 hrs ago #34

I've seen news stories including studies about the links in AI overviews often not actually leading highplainsdem 20 hrs ago #36

I'm focused on the value AI brings to .... reACTIONary 18 hrs ago #50

AI search on the internet is a parasite killing its host. There's no value in that. The errors make its highplainsdem 18 hrs ago #51

Well then, if that's the case, eventually..... reACTIONary 17 hrs ago #52

Of all the silly comparisons. Calculators would never have been widely used if they were as error-prone highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #57

I sometimes post AI search results here, and.... reACTIONary 17 hrs ago #58

The whopper is everything you've said suggesting people should trust AI results. Even AI companies highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #61

Not any less trustful than "the internet" itself..... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #67

Again, you're trusting AI summaries known to make mistakes. You're also choosing to use AI tools highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #69

Again, I've never accessed anything on the internet... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Betty Boom 6 hrs ago #68

Thanks for your comments Betty Boom 6 hrs ago #71

You are welcome! Here on DU, even those who are a bit... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #74

Unfortunately, I had quite an unpleasant experience to the contrary recently Betty Boom 6 hrs ago #75

The problem with AI overviews is that they're not reliable. ShazzieB 23 hrs ago #14

I think they are more reliable than some make them out to be.... reACTIONary 23 hrs ago #16

There are still whoppers aplenty. cab67 20 hrs ago #38

Plain search used to do that Cirsium 23 hrs ago #18

Your experience with "plain search" and with... reACTIONary 22 hrs ago #19

it isn't a matter of opinion Cirsium 22 hrs ago #20

It seems to be a subjective judgement to me.... reACTIONary 22 hrs ago #23

OK Cirsium 21 hrs ago #30

Wow! Thanks.... reACTIONary 21 hrs ago #32

Thank you Cirsium 17 hrs ago #60

I sometimes find them amusing. cab67 20 hrs ago #37

And you just admitted you have to wade through irrelevant junk... paleotn 19 hrs ago #42

Then one has to verify that it's not inaccurate slop GenThePerservering 18 hrs ago #46

How can you be sure what the agenda of the AI programmer is? Like an algorithm, it can steer us in the direction Martin68 5 hrs ago #78

You make a very good point... reACTIONary 3 hrs ago #79

I, too, usually conduct searches about scientific and other "basic facts," and have found some of the AI summaries Martin68 2 hrs ago #80

We were able to do it just fine (in fact, better) BEFORE this immensely destructive shit came along. Karasu Yesterday #3

Yes. Search was much better before. highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #6

The quality of their searches declined significantly. hunter 21 hrs ago #27

AI "search" Be Leave On 23 hrs ago #7

Profitable, because we are a post-literate society. SouthBayDem 17 hrs ago #56

Fuck Google! caballojm 23 hrs ago #8

DuckDuckGo has an AI, but they actually allow you to completely turn it off, and they have a version of their site that Karasu 23 hrs ago #10

Same here. paleotn 19 hrs ago #43

Everyone getting those commercials claiming we need a million data centers Bengus81 23 hrs ago #9

Here's what's wrong with the massive data centers ... FakeNoose 9 hrs ago #65

Their wanting to put one up around Garden City,Ks and it's projected water use Bengus81 8 hrs ago #66

Yes many of these data centers are going up in rural areas, and lack of zoning laws is a big reason FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #76

Kick dalton99a 23 hrs ago #11

I want to know how Progressive dog 23 hrs ago #15

I have not seen contradictions, but I think vanlassie 22 hrs ago #22

I have seen something worse than a contradiction. pnwmom 22 hrs ago #24

Yea that's bad. I would never accept personal info vanlassie 21 hrs ago #28

You could find it just as easily with a 'precisely composed query' GenThePerservering 18 hrs ago #47

I've been a heavy user of the internet for many years. vanlassie 16 hrs ago #62

Even more reprehensible... GiqueCee 22 hrs ago #21

Yes. People need to realize that every single writer, visual artist, photographer, singer, musician, highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #44

Nailed it! GiqueCee 18 hrs ago #45

It's human nature to expect the biggest reward for the lowest cost. SouthBayDem 17 hrs ago #53

So the AI bros ripping off the world's intellectual property is just human nature? highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #59

Republicans will pass a law making it illegal to restrict AI search Bobstandard 22 hrs ago #25

'Almost Intelligence' trains from anything it can find (within reason, supposedly) 3825-87867 21 hrs ago #26

"Imitation Intelligence" is a good name. hunter 21 hrs ago #29

It's pretty easy to tell if Republicans are lying!--- Jack Valentino 20 hrs ago #33

I call it a fancy shorthand for Anti-Intellectualism. SouthBayDem 17 hrs ago #54

I wish this was here. Figarosmom 20 hrs ago #35

I probably don't ask complicated questions, but I find the Google AI helpful Bluetus 20 hrs ago #40

I've asked about current news events Figarosmom 19 hrs ago #41

That's an astute judge. But it goes beyond that. Bluetus 20 hrs ago #39

This is something a lot of people don't understand GenThePerservering 18 hrs ago #49

I heard a good explanation the other day Bluetus 6 hrs ago #72

very insightful. that's why hallucinations will never go away altogether. nt scipan 17 hrs ago #55

People still use Google? It's a spy agency that sells your data. I stopped ages ago. usonian 18 hrs ago #48

Type -ai at the end of your search and you'll find out how little you need AI Bengus81 9 hrs ago #63

AI regurgitates a lot of garbage and presents itself as fact. Historic NY 9 hrs ago #64

AI Chatbots reviewed by Behind the Bastards ihaveaquestion 6 hrs ago #70

Google is using AI in the same way that using an algorithm produces search results that benefit advertisers. Martin68 5 hrs ago #77