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pat_k

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13. Would require a lot of acreage, but some combination of wind and solar with battery storage could perhaps work.
Fri Jul 3, 2026, 05:56 PM
19 hrs ago

The amount of power required is utterly mind-boggling -- 50 to 100 megawatts and more -- which is what the essential problem is.

It would take over 1000 acres of panels. The roof wouldn't offer much space because they need to be covered with cooling equipment.

There are discussions of combined wind / solar / battery storage:
https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatacenter/tip/How-to-use-data-center-wind-turbines-for-sustainable-energy

The thing is, it is insane for this nation to be pushing forward with these monsters until approaches that don't cause the incredible harms are designed and regulated. Really and truly insane given that it is all for a technology that is costing billions for failure after failure to provide ROI. Talk about an f-ing money pit. Absolute lunacy.

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Would require a lot of acreage, but some combination of wind and solar with battery storage could perhaps work. pat_k 19 hrs ago #13
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