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WSHazel

(974 posts)
31. I wouldn't be surprised if there are back channel talks
Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:28 AM
22 hrs ago

Between the EU and Russia. The EU should offer Russia a deal to end war. Conditional membership to the EU based on various free market and political reforms over the next 10 years. Ukraine gets immediate membership to EU.

The big carrot for Russia would be ending NATO. The EU + Canada would reconstitute as a new military alliance. Add Ukraine, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea.

Russia is in no condition to fight anyone, ever again. The economy is in shambles, the demographics are disastrous, and the military is spent. The Europeans would annihilate the Russian military if it came to that, and the Europeans have nukes. Putin’s own position in Russia is in jeopardy with how badly the war is going, but a conditional membership to the EU would probably protect him. He might take it.

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Very Presidential -misanthroptimist Yesterday #1
What a petulant child he is. Lonestarblue Yesterday #2
Another day, another massive embarrassment to the USA, under this godforsaken piece of shit LymphocyteLover 23 hrs ago #19
I live in Spain now and I can tell you sdfernando Yesterday #3
Yeah? Well see how happy yiz are when there ain't no more McDonalds or Starbucks. 3Hotdogs 23 hrs ago #15
I could see MyOwnPeace 22 hrs ago #28
Burgers are a big deal here and so is coffee sdfernando 17 hrs ago #43
The coffee - - - years ago my step daughter was in Spain for junior season abroad. Joyce joined her for a week. 3Hotdogs 11 hrs ago #50
LOL!! sdfernando 11 hrs ago #52
I am looking forward to the day when the rest of the world decides the same thing. OldBaldy1701E 22 hrs ago #23
Well, since we cut USAID, maybe. vanlassie 11 hrs ago #51
Spain Hosted the 2022 NATO Madrid Summit eringer Yesterday #4
"There are a couple of others,..." Hugin Yesterday #5
Ojo Lardass liberalgunwilltravel Yesterday #6
Oh, I know what that means! NT mahatmakanejeeves Yesterday #7
Trump is... GiqueCee 21 hrs ago #34
In 2025, Spain spent 2.1% of GDP on defence, more than France, Belgium, Italy, Turkey or Canada muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #8
Trump's insults of course never have anything to do with reality MadameButterfly 23 hrs ago #13
Either that or... Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #17
Agreed Delphinus 23 hrs ago #22
😬 WTF.... he's delusional.... He thinks he's king of the world.... He's like a petulant child with a loaded gun ashredux 23 hrs ago #9
More like a gun loaded with beebees. ananda 19 hrs ago #37
shithole is pulling us down in the failing economic hole.................. Lovie777 23 hrs ago #10
Off with their heads! 2naSalit 23 hrs ago #11
fat orange imbecile wolfie001 23 hrs ago #12
As I recall they were the first to refuse to let trump use their air fields to attack Iran. Biophilic 23 hrs ago #14
Leader of the Coalition of the Unwilling. 3Hotdogs 23 hrs ago #16
She said you had a little weenie too yam face. twodogsbarking 23 hrs ago #18
Spain doesn't care Prairie Gates 23 hrs ago #20
Because he can't impose tariffs. no_hypocrisy 23 hrs ago #21
Trump's 90-minute 'beautiful phone call' with Putin just before the NATO meeting might have something to do sop 22 hrs ago #24
I wouldn't be surprised if there are back channel talks WSHazel 22 hrs ago #31
Reparations and Criminal Tribunals could be a major sticking point duckworth969 18 hrs ago #40
End the war first WSHazel 18 hrs ago #42
Of course he doesn't care what anyone else wants mdbl 22 hrs ago #25
Diplomacy by snit dlk 22 hrs ago #26
Good God in Butter he is stark raving mad. Now was this after he threatened a war with Denmark and ... Botany 22 hrs ago #27
A+ for projection KS Toronado 22 hrs ago #29
This is getting worse and worse. We're in deep shit here, people. Joinfortmill 22 hrs ago #30
Attacking our allies is exactly what Trump would do if he was a Russian agent. Doodley 22 hrs ago #32
It won't be long before all former allies cut ties & isolate us like N Korea Tim S 22 hrs ago #33
I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Ray Bruns 21 hrs ago #35
What an asshole. Scrivener7 19 hrs ago #36
Now I want to go to Spain. SidneyR 19 hrs ago #38
We do! /nt sdfernando 17 hrs ago #44
And olive oil! niyad 12 hrs ago #49
Baby blm is there. She says the vegetables are far superior. blm 11 hrs ago #53
How does this get fixed? SamuelAdams 19 hrs ago #39
Now Spain needs to win the World Cup. iemanja 18 hrs ago #41
How long will all the other nations in the NATO alliance tolerate Justice matters. 17 hrs ago #45
Did they refuse to kiss Donny's oversized stinky ass? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 17 hrs ago #46
IIRC, they denied him use of their airports to launch attacks against Iran. BlueSpot 7 hrs ago #55
And almost no elected Republicans Progressive dog 16 hrs ago #47
MaddowBlog-Trump keeps threatening to cut off trade with Spain, but he can't follow through LetMyPeopleVote 12 hrs ago #48
Senile pendejo! synni 9 hrs ago #54
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