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124. Journeyman, this is very astute take on the issue that I've not seen articulated

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:30 PM

Jan 2013

in just this way on the numerous NRA ad threads here.

I think you should make it an OP. The whole purpose of that ad is to appeal to the more dim-witted of the American populace, who can't tell the difference between protection of the president's family and protection for the average citizen.

It's not that Sasha and Malia are better, or more worthy of being loved by their parents than any other children. They aren't. It's, as you've stated, that concern for the welfare of the State mandates that the President's family not be at risk of being taken hostage for some nefarious purpose that might endanger the entire country because of decisions that would need to be made.

As you've said "their <Sasha and Malia's> well-being affects us all."

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NRA's New Ad Calls Obama "Elitist Hypocrite" For Having Secret Service Protection For His Children [View all] BVictor1 Jan 2013 OP

What a bunch of sick fucks. Might as well pay $ to the church perverts. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #1

just saw it on Piers he said it was pathetic, couldn't agree more sasha031 Jan 2013 #2

The End Is Nigh, Gun Fucks. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #3

you go with that commercial guys ..... Botany Jan 2013 #4

Focus groups? randome Jan 2013 #97

he needs to call them out as LIARS Enrique Jan 2013 #5

I can't help but thinking BainsBane Jan 2013 #6

agree - "stand and fight" is scarey NRA code for wordpix Jan 2013 #30

agree, the NRA try to rile-up their whackiest armed nutters. probably spammed millions of emails. Sunlei Jan 2013 #36

Precisely. Joe Bacon Jan 2013 #50

Using their guns to bully and intimidate. (nt) ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #139

to put there idiotic question bluntly. uh Yes they are more important. They are targets. PatrynXX Jan 2013 #7

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #10

Excuse me, John2 Jan 2013 #15

Those guards are separate from secret service marshall Jan 2013 #78

Sidwell has their own security force squirefld Jan 2013 #125

How Come You Know So Many Details Of The School's Security? (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #131

I heard today that Sidwell security is NOT armed Hekate Jan 2013 #136

Sidwell certainly has police officers under employment sgsmith Jan 2013 #143

Seriously? Last year, they had to evacuate their school... TomCADem Jan 2013 #26

No kidding. How many threats does the POTUS get per day? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #32

About 1,000 threats per month per a Secret Service announcement last fall. Scuba Jan 2013 #71

Other kids aren't the children of the POTUS. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #31

Really all the kids from government families have some form of security. That's why okaawhatever Jan 2013 #43

Yep. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #44

Not true. I WAS a kid from a high-level government family and didn't have special security tpsbmam Jan 2013 #126

That's why those kids are there, NOT because it is a "better" school duffyduff Jan 2013 #153

bwahahahahaha!! frylock Jan 2013 #42

............ Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #47

get real - the President's children need protection as he is fighting terrorists samsingh Jan 2013 #54

No one has implied that the President's children don't need protection. That does not humblebum Jan 2013 #84

Get real ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #102

And who said they were. But as a vulnerable, generally undefended location and advertised as such, humblebum Jan 2013 #107

You did ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #113

I knew it. I knew it wasn't only religion. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #140

so i guess you're saying we should expand the secret service to include all children samsingh Jan 2013 #121

The kids who got shot in schools needed protection, too Blandocyte Jan 2013 #86

Normally not the targets of strangers. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #62

"Sometimes the targets of family friends or family members or of other kids" - then yes, other humblebum Jan 2013 #70

anyone outside of their home is a vulnerable target to an unknown assailant SemperEadem Jan 2013 #73

Others are more likely to be targeted, although children seem to be targeted for the rare mass JDPriestly Jan 2013 #147

non sequitur SemperEadem Jan 2013 #72

i would say that your non sequitur is itself a non sequitur argument. humblebum Jan 2013 #100

here's the thing, though... SemperEadem Jan 2013 #118

YOU need to get real madokie Jan 2013 #74

The President's children are *not* any more important than any other child. Llewlladdwr Jan 2013 #14

Other children can't be used to blackmail the man with the button Recursion Jan 2013 #75

Amazing isn't it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #106

Here. Let President Josiah Bartlet explain it for the idiots: Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #116

Actually they are Marrah_G Jan 2013 #82

Exactly. The children of anyone who controls nuclear missiles are very important to all of us (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #108

To put it even more bluntly, it is terrorists like the NRA who are making them targets. (nt) ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #138

Agreed.... n/t defacto7 Jan 2013 #152

My Response: The NRA wants to be the terrorists best friend. Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #8

Would refer to the NRA as traitorous bastards if I could find a way to express that indepat Jan 2013 #19

agreed samsingh Jan 2013 #55

just saw on Lawrence O'Donnell.. chillfactor Jan 2013 #9

He corrected that later. GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #45

It is known as "PRESSURE"! malibea Jan 2013 #90

I love how they had to insert a jab about taxes on the rich Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #11

Koch > ALEC > SYG > Guns 'adopted' to 'wanted homes'> Megabucks off misery. freshwest Jan 2013 #148

Then why was the "press conference" at which Wayne Barkingmad spoke swept for guns? hatrack Jan 2013 #12

crazy wayne lives in a phantasy land world populated and supported by other lunatics samsingh Jan 2013 #56

Why was that "press conference" held in DC? atreides1 Jan 2013 #87

Please, I saw Chelsea Clinton with friends in the mid-90's... mike dub Jan 2013 #13

They did and do. riqster Jan 2013 #17

"bulky individuals"... mike dub Jan 2013 #21

Bulky!!??!11! Who you calling "Bulky"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #89

That's funny! malibea Jan 2013 #93

Oh, no! Just bulked up. We know you've been working out, dude! freshwest Jan 2013 #149

I saw Chelsea at a local figure skating competition. amandabeech Jan 2013 #24

Last line " ...gun free zones for ours[re:kids] " Ash_F Jan 2013 #16

The NRA is a public menace jsr Jan 2013 #18

I am sure the Secret Service agents are better trained and better shots nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #20

you're right. At the inner city public school where I teach, the security wordpix Jan 2013 #25

On top of that, police and guards at the Holocaust Museum and even the U.S. Capitol... CBHagman Jan 2013 #29

You're talking about the same SS that got busted whoring and scamming in Colombia? Psephos Jan 2013 #51

i don't know what life is like in your neck of the woods, XtopherXtopher Jan 2013 #66

As I said, how quaint. Psephos Jan 2013 #133

HOW would they pay these people? Demobrat Jan 2013 #128

His children are no more important then mine, but they are more at risk than mine. . . Journeyman Jan 2013 #22

Precisely ! Sinistrous Jan 2013 #41

But sad that anyone would even need this explained to them. OnionPatch Jan 2013 #144

With all due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #109

Journeyman, this is very astute take on the issue that I've not seen articulated truth2power Jan 2013 #124

Agree - he's speaking to something few people have been able to express. freshwest Jan 2013 #151

Amazing that in the 8 years Bush was President, I never saw a single derogatory... BlueJazz Jan 2013 #23

Psssst. It's because Obama is, you know... R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #33

no, he is black nakocal Jan 2013 #37

Perhaps it is because he is left handed Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #49

Sinister even n/t Fumesucker Jan 2013 #58

You weren't paying attention nan4tjn Jan 2013 #63

this group is so despicable, I hope their members leave in droves wordpix Jan 2013 #27

I was watching MSNBC tonight and they announced that it had been removed from the NRA website. truthisfreedom Jan 2013 #28

NRA promotes their new 'school guards' for profit business to rape your state and federal money Sunlei Jan 2013 #34

President needs protection from NRA kooks Skittles Jan 2013 #35

He has to protect his children from Turbineguy Jan 2013 #38

How stupid especially to bring young girls into this! obama2terms Jan 2013 #39

Newsflash HawkeyeLibkid Jan 2013 #40

It's. A. Private. School. DRoseDARs Jan 2013 #46

I was trolling through some 2A websites looking for info on Yeager okaawhatever Jan 2013 #48

It is just sad AND creepy at the same time. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #59

A part of me ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #111

Yes. Keeping things small and insular doesn't allow for outside information. okaawhatever Jan 2013 #123

It won't be the world ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #127

I hope everything they have is being monitored. Warrant or not. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #146

Par for the course ellisonz Jan 2013 #52

truly revolting and sick - the essence of the nra on open display samsingh Jan 2013 #53

Just when you thought the NRA couldnt sink any lower they find a way to do so. nt cstanleytech Jan 2013 #57

It's actually just an old, re-warmed tactic Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #154

Wow. Maybe, just maybe, because he and his family all kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #60

Maybe if we had better gun regulations, our President would not need armed Secret Service JDPriestly Jan 2013 #61

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #64

Presidents have their families protected as well because there's so many Cha Jan 2013 #65

Hey, Wayne! Don't you have some slaves' quarters to inspect? KansDem Jan 2013 #67

The depth of ignorance is beyond belief! liam_laddie Jan 2013 #68

On top of the appalling message. They called him "Mr." Obama. He is President okaawhatever Jan 2013 #69

It is their way of showing the President "No Respect" malibea Jan 2013 #94

The NRA goes all in on crazy. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #76

Boy talk about reaching. This ad is the worst ad I ever saw. Desperation that is what this southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #77

So the NRA is going to clean up its racists, right? cap Jan 2013 #79

The nra is so petty demOcrat11 Jan 2013 #80

His logic should be that we should all have secret service then, since the Pres does Marrah_G Jan 2013 #81

You call that LOGIC? malibea Jan 2013 #88

ummmm please reread the post Marrah_G Jan 2013 #96

We got it. randome Jan 2013 #98

Someone has to protect them from NRA loonies Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #83

Are the President's kids more important than yours? malibea Jan 2013 #85

If I were a member or supporter of the NRA, I'd be highly offended by this ad because truth2power Jan 2013 #91

By doing this they basically upped the need for even more security for Sasha and Malia Jennicut Jan 2013 #92

Other kids aren't known worldwide because the media shows their pictures hundreds of times a year. 4lbs Jan 2013 #95

How about the NRA opens their conventions to members of the public The Second Stone Jan 2013 #99

Think it's time to put the NRA on the official terrorist group watch list. And, sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #101

NRA should have been on that list many years ago... Tippy Jan 2013 #103

Yes, I hope they are under extensive FBI monitoring. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #145

There are no words for this level of stupidity. Idiocracy, anyone? Nay Jan 2013 #104

I think you've coined a good one. May I borrow it? wordpix Jan 2013 #137

Of course! Nay Jan 2013 #142

What a viscous circle DaveJ Jan 2013 #105

just when you thought they couldn't sink any lower ecstatic Jan 2013 #110

Am I the only one who has seen this on FB the past 4 years? maryellen99 Jan 2013 #112

This is the best argument they can make? Kablooie Jan 2013 #114

False equivalence, also adigal Jan 2013 #115

They are desperate. City Lights Jan 2013 #117

not "more important" but at a much higher risk. DCBob Jan 2013 #119

The rabid mutts on the lunatic fringe of the far right will love the ad mokawanis Jan 2013 #120

These fuckers have no shame. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #122

I wonder how many gungeoners paid for this ad. aandegoons Jan 2013 #129

Uh - the President can't choose or not choose Secret Service protection. yellowcanine Jan 2013 #130

"Are the president's kids more important than yours?" daschess1987 Jan 2013 #132

Right. It doesn't seem like a big mental leap mostlyconfused Jan 2013 #134

The president cannot, by law, refuse Secret Service protection for himself NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #135

I'm going to break down the ad a little, more for my sake than anyone else's. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #141

Why should the President have armed guards and not me? XRubicon Jan 2013 #150