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Jim Lane

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123. I can't believe the rush to judgment before even his first appearance.

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:48 PM

Jan 2013

Apparently DU is full of geniuses who know exactly what Kucinich will say, including the extent to which he'll present genuine progressive positions and the extent to which he'll be manipulated by Fox just to make Obama look bad.

Hey, geniuses, could I have your picks for the NFL playoffs this weekend?

I side with the rational voices, such as cyclezealot in #62 ("I'll watch first, criticize later&quot and Exen Trik in #92 ("I'll reserve jugement until I see how it plays out&quot .

My personal prediction is that, yes, he'll criticize Obama, but he'll also criticize plenty of RWers, and will at least let a little fresh air into the hermetically sealed Fox bubble.

You might also consider that criticism from the left can help Obama. On health care, for example, the ACA looks moderate and centrist if you consider it as a compromise between the right (an unregulated free market) and the left (single payer). I'm sure many Fox viewers don't even realize that there's anything to the left of the ACA.

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Fox hires Dennis Kucinich as analyst [View all] swag Jan 2013 OP

Well he could be quite wicked if they get him to diss the President. glinda Jan 2013 #1

That's going to be his sole purpose. Renew Deal Jan 2013 #6

And then the Fauxians will say "See? See? A DEMOCRAT hates the President!! They ALL must hate MADem Jan 2013 #33

You're jumping to conclusions a bit early, don't you think? Why not wait and see? There's Cal33 Jan 2013 #75

Naah. It's a perfect storm. Kucinich hasn't had a nice thing to say about Obama that I've ever MADem Jan 2013 #91

"voted with the GOP more often than most Democrats" Ash_F Jan 2013 #116

As I recall in 2008 when he pulled out of the Presidential race, southerncrone Jan 2013 #152

Good thing he didn't say "McCain!" nt MADem Jan 2013 #153

Kucinich on Fox???!!! Hope he hasn't become the next Ed Rendell. LoisB Jan 2013 #2

He's going to be a punching bag for O'Reilly while criticizing Obama from the left. Renew Deal Jan 2013 #4

Only he isn't the punching bag type. Just look at his past history. Assassination attempts Cal33 Jan 2013 #77

He can match O'Reilly. Let's see how it plays out. nt brush Jan 2013 #155

Don't forget, O'Reilly has the tougher job. He has to cover up his lies with further lies. All Cal33 Jan 2013 #159

Kucinich Bumblebee Jan 2013 #11

Hanh? tblue Jan 2013 #88

If he did, he would be banned from Democracy Now alp227 Jan 2013 #90

Is thought this was a joke Renew Deal Jan 2013 #3

Tool of the war machine? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #18

Well, his family's gotta eat. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #5

My thought as well. peace frog Jan 2013 #81

Righties can learn a thing or two from Dennis. tblue Jan 2013 #89

This doesn't surprise me, considering some of his votes on some important Democratic bills BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #7

He was ardently anti-abortion, until it became politically inconvenient to maintain that stance. MADem Jan 2013 #34

He began his political career as a member DonViejo Jan 2013 #36

Is this a frigging joke? bunnies Jan 2013 #8

That IS fearlessness! robinlynne Jan 2013 #9

BULLSHIT it's because DK has been sucking up to Rand Paul, the purveyor of American Exceptionalism patrice Jan 2013 #12

lol. that's as silly as it gets. cali Jan 2013 #27

You are all underestimating Dennis Kucinch! one of our best. Your assumptions robinlynne Jan 2013 #10

"ONE OF OUR BEST"? Bumblebee Jan 2013 #17

Best bullshitters, best attention-mongers, and certainly one of the best at grabbing those matching MADem Jan 2013 #40

Amen. Little Star Jan 2013 #161

"Fox News Democrat" does not belong on any credible person's resume, nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #19

Some of us are saying the same sort of things that what calls itself "the Left" says about PO. patrice Jan 2013 #23

Hardly "one of our best". Voted with the Republicans more often than almost every other Democrat NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #31

Where is your link for that? former9thward Jan 2013 #44

See post #32 NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #105

Sorry but that is BS. former9thward Jan 2013 #106

Nobody said anyone votes 100% with their party. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #110

On party unity votes Kucinich voted 95% with Democrats. former9thward Jan 2013 #119

Haha! Not BS at all. His opposition was backed up by his words and actions. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #121

I'll watch first , criticize later. cyclezealot Jan 2013 #62

He's being paid by Fox. I think he's throwing his scruples out the window Politicub Jan 2013 #67

He has a congressional pension cyclezealot Jan 2013 #163

maybe some conservatives Enrique Jan 2013 #13

He is not a progressive Bumblebee Jan 2013 #20

And in other news . . . colorado_ufo Jan 2013 #14

LOL +100 nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #37

He's the new Alan Colmes n/t Pryderi Jan 2013 #15

this FreeBC Jan 2013 #125

"Fox hires Dennis Kucinich as professional liberal punching bag" Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #16

Perfect place for the little toad. tabasco Jan 2013 #21

See, they really ARE fair and balanced! Hugabear Jan 2013 #22

Good Lord. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #24

Aaaa... Dennis may I have my donations back? peace13 Jan 2013 #25

Kucinich's Action fund went to the likes of Alan Grayson cyclezealot Jan 2013 #64

I must be old. peace13 Jan 2013 #146

Holy cow! It'd be worth watching Fox just for him. nt valerief Jan 2013 #26

'And tonight, playing the part of the crazy extreme liberal Democrat...' nt onehandle Jan 2013 #28

Yes, that is common tactic of RW media. DCBob Jan 2013 #160

Everybody sing!...Opportunity....opportunity.... is knockin at your door.... BlueNoteSpecial Jan 2013 #29

Rand Paul got him the job & DK probably thinks he's going to do something there. I don't think he patrice Jan 2013 #30

One of the GOP's most reliable voters from the Democratic Party: NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #32

Example of 'If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.' I liked DK, even when he was freshwest Jan 2013 #35

My how the times have changed. bvar22 Jan 2013 #38

Well, he's "funded by corporate interests" now--FauxSnooze is one of the planet's largest media MADem Jan 2013 #43

I've never understood how strongly some members of DU... bvar22 Jan 2013 #87

I wouldn't object so much if the guy didn't play the "I'm more principled than the rest of you MADem Jan 2013 #95

I will admit that he was a difficult man... bvar22 Jan 2013 #101

Please do not characterize my POV as "hatred." Would you like it if I characterized your POV as MADem Jan 2013 #148

I Agree With MADem Re Kucinich and Never Understood the High Regard He Enjoyed at DU Indykatie Jan 2013 #137

My personal view is that they hired him so they could alternate between mocking him and holding MADem Jan 2013 #149

"That is about the only thing that will get me to tune in to Fox." ProSense Jan 2013 #63

Well, I will admit to another weakness. bvar22 Jan 2013 #112

I am a huge Wesley Clark fan. I think he tblue37 Jan 2013 #158

Kucinich appearing on Fox is nothing new. cyclezealot Jan 2013 #139

Talk about going over to the dark side! Politicub Jan 2013 #39

don't you mean when dlwickham Jan 2013 #48

Sadly, that's what I should have said Politicub Jan 2013 #69

I'm not either dlwickham Jan 2013 #140

traitor olddad56 Jan 2013 #41

Sold out to big corporation for big money... Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #42

But...but...but...he's a *real liberal*!1! JNelson6563 Jan 2013 #45

Reading many posts here he must be Ailes next pick for GOP Pres dogman Jan 2013 #46

Interesting to see so many turn on him dlwickham Jan 2013 #47

I like cali Jan 2013 #51

they've always hated DK around here frylock Jan 2013 #99

I think he turned on us. olddad56 Jan 2013 #100

The Ol' DU Bus has a mighty big under carriage ... Myrina Jan 2013 #167

You Better Believe It!! nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #49

What the fuck? Arkana Jan 2013 #50

Useful idiot for Fox News frazzled Jan 2013 #52

$$$$$ talks and influences people greatly. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #53

The Onion, right? Please say this is The Onion. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author madrchsod Jan 2013 #55

Don't let the country down, Dennis. Speak the truth out of honor not revenge. judesedit Jan 2013 #56

Hoping Dennis "Brings it!". Looking forward to see of what he is made stevenleser Jan 2013 #57

daniel in the lion`s den.... madrchsod Jan 2013 #58

Obama sits down for interview with Bill O'Reilly brentspeak Jan 2013 #59

Obama still shuns Faux News ProSense Jan 2013 #60

Obama "shuns" Fox News by answering more Fox reporters' question than brentspeak Jan 2013 #72

Paid, dude, paid. ProSense Jan 2013 #74

Maybe you, like Obama, have something of a soft spot for Fox News brentspeak Jan 2013 #80

Kucinich is the one who works for Fox. ProSense Jan 2013 #82

Invoking Bvar's Postulate on Post #60. bvar22 Jan 2013 #93

Hey, go ahead and defend Fox Noise. ProSense Jan 2013 #96

That IS a video of President Obama appearing on Fox News. bvar22 Jan 2013 #98

Has Kucinich been hired by Fox as a paid contributor? ProSense Jan 2013 #102

And DK is a private citizen, not a Public Official... bvar22 Jan 2013 #107

So are Dick Morris, Alan Colmes and the other Fox contributors. ProSense Jan 2013 #109

That is logically inconsistent. bvar22 Jan 2013 #117

Bill Clinton is a paid Fox contributor? ProSense Jan 2013 #118

I don't know whether he was paid or not. bvar22 Jan 2013 #122

Really? ProSense Jan 2013 #124

Do you KNOW whether on not Private citizen Bill Clinton was paid? bvar22 Jan 2013 #162

Also, despite the false equivalency, ProSense Jan 2013 #120

Except he is not justifying Fox. rational_pi Jan 2013 #138

But he wasn't paid for the interview. Kucinich is on the Fox payroll. Politicub Jan 2013 #68

Obama was the top recipient of News Corp employee campaign contributions. OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #141

Huh? So you're saying Dennis isn't on the payroll? Politicub Jan 2013 #142

But, but, but.. Cha Jan 2013 #173

Hahahha Politicub Jan 2013 #175

Yep, dual purpose here for Fox Still Sensible Jan 2013 #61

Awesome! What's next for Dennis? Keynote speaker at the GOP Convention? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #65

WTF?! nt and-justice-for-all Jan 2013 #66

I hope he teaches them a thang or two libodem Jan 2013 #70

Hugely Dissapointing otohara Jan 2013 #71

Personally, having been on Fox News once Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #73

Please tell me this is the Onion! DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #76

I'm guessing he will be put in the Alan Colmes/Bob Beckel category. ballaratocker Jan 2013 #78

You see what they are doing here, right bluestateguy Jan 2013 #79

That is probably true. aandegoons Jan 2013 #86

More people will listen to him who need to be converted then preaching to the converted stultusporcos Jan 2013 #83

Kucinich won't convert the dittoheads who watch Fox. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #111

Perhaps stultusporcos Jan 2013 #113

LOL: NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #114

He has to stick nothing only speak the truth stultusporcos Jan 2013 #115

Fox made a big mistake. Duval Jan 2013 #84

The only reason why Fox whats him is so they can have a "Dem" to bash the President. iandhr Jan 2013 #85

+1 & It won't matter one bit it's a Dem who's never managed to **DO** anything but pipe-dreams his patrice Jan 2013 #108

I'll reserve jugement until I see how it plays out Exen Trik Jan 2013 #92

I wonder if Kucinich... ReRe Jan 2013 #94

If he has a certain type of contract with Fox he cannot go speak on other networks. IronicNews Jan 2013 #97

Kucinich in Star Wars kairos12 Jan 2013 #103

The Dove Guarding the "Fox House" triplepoint Jan 2013 #104

I can't believe the rush to judgment before even his first appearance. Jim Lane Jan 2013 #123

It's simply another opportunity for the 3rd way crew at DU to NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #126

"I seriously doubt that Dennis will sacrifice any of his beliefs for Fox" ProSense Jan 2013 #128

Yawn NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #132

Wait, ProSense Jan 2013 #133

Will I have this post deleted; greiner3 Jan 2013 #127

Kucinich ProSense Jan 2013 #129

And you know what.. NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #156

LOL @ "life long Progressive stance" NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #134

Amen! Little Star Jan 2013 #166

Do you get a paycheck from Fox? Politicub Jan 2013 #135

I salute your post... MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #144

Amen. flvegan Jan 2013 #145

"Fuck any and all DU'ers who have anything bad to say/think about Dennis." Cha Jan 2013 #174

Do you think Dennis is Naive about what he is doing? DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #130

No Al Jazeeras, HuffPos, MSNBCs onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #136

OK, pardon me here, but DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #150

What you speak is sensible - NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #157

Nailed It!! bvar22 Jan 2013 #165

Seems much ado over nothing onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #168

Well Said! bvar22 Jan 2013 #169

All respect out the window Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #131

Brother is he serious? LostinRed Jan 2013 #143

Cat among the Dodos? n/t DeSwiss Jan 2013 #147

Dennis, get outta there now DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #151

He won't be there long, his vocabulary is too advanced for southerncrone Jan 2013 #154

At least he'll be getting paid for it now Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #164

Roger Fucking Ailes says he has "courage" so it must be Cha Jan 2013 #170

let's just wait and see how it goes. I think he will do fine for the progressive cause Douglas Carpenter Jan 2013 #171

If Kucinich maintains his ideology, I have no problem with that Charles Goya Jan 2013 #172