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slackmaster

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45. There are three weak links that make the law less effective than it could be
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jan 2013

One is the lack of a means in most states for people who do not have a Type 01 Federal Firearms License to check the background of a prospective buyer of a used firearm. That could be fixed with legislation.

Second, incomplete data in the National Instant Check System (NICS) database. The President is addressing that, but it will require help from Congress.

Third, there is no systematic prosecution of people who fail a NICS check when they are attempting to buy a firearm. In every case of a bona fide rejection in NICS, the person who was attempting to buy a firearm committed a crime just by making a false statement on the paper form that he or she completed and signed under penalty of perjury. Very few people who do that are actually prosecuted - A conviction can result in a five year sentence in federal prison.

Address those three problems, and the laws would be a whole lot more effective.

...stopping the manufacturing of obscene numbers of guns for sale for anyone that has the money, from international gun runners, to some nut on the internet with a stolen credit card.

I think you have a misconception about Internet sales of firearms. Only a federal firearms licensee can have a firearm shipped directly to him or her without having the transaction go through a federal firearms licensee.

As to the number of firearms that are manufactured, that is simply supply and demand in action. Doing a better job of screening buyers as I outlined above would reduce demand only slightly, because a large majority of people who buy firearms never commit crimes with them.

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This message was self-deleted by its author hlthe2b Jan 2013 #1
Isn't this local news? No one was even injured. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #2
Those idiots better go to jail. nt SunSeeker Jan 2013 #3
+1000 wordpix Jan 2013 #62
MRI not necessary. If someone wants one of these type guns after all that has happened, they are Hoyt Jan 2013 #4
+1 SunSeeker Jan 2013 #5
But the gun nuts will tell us it was not an AK-47 jpak Jan 2013 #6
Define "functioning." aquart Jan 2013 #7
This wouldn't have happened Liberalagogo Jan 2013 #8
LOL n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #9
Maybe if the homeowners were ARMED durablend Jan 2013 #13
In that area of Medina County, they probably were. Fuddnik Jan 2013 #14
Yup... defacto7 Jan 2013 #23
So I'm guessing that "Twp." does not mean "twerp". nt bemildred Jan 2013 #10
twerpship defacto7 Jan 2013 #24
It's a standard abbreviation for "township." (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #54
600 + rounds of 7.62 mm AK 47 ammo, 9 mm pistol, a .308 pistol, a .22 cal pistol, Botany Jan 2013 #11
Defend-against-tyranny FAIL: freshwest Jan 2013 #40
I'd be willing to bet naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #48
you would be correct Locrian Jan 2013 #55
If it was semi auto then you could fire it as fast as you could pull the trigger .... Botany Jan 2013 #57
Apparently, God is a member of the NRA and approves of these shootings by mentally ill people. wake.up.america Jan 2013 #12
Violated Rule #4: Know your target and what is beyond it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #15
These are the same two fools who were quoted as saying... Javaman Jan 2013 #16
My dad's family used tp live on that road. we can do it Jan 2013 #17
If the Kuruc women had been armed with AK47s on their persons this would never have happened. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #18
Just a couple of responsible gun owners. onehandle Jan 2013 #19
The weapon should be returned once the .. Historic NY Jan 2013 #34
How many do their target/practice shooting outside? LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #20
I sight in my guns in my yard, but I have several backstops, oldbanjo Jan 2013 #35
"The time is now for bullet-proof siding." - Wayne LaPierre Dash87 Jan 2013 #21
Bet they didn't even hit their targets. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #22
Or they're idiots that have no idea how powerful an AK is Incitatus Jan 2013 #63
More patriots fighting govt tyranny. valerief Jan 2013 #25
"You just don’t expect this to happen on a Wednesday afternoon.” Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #26
* NCarolinawoman Jan 2013 #47
They're a bunch of fucking yahoos, drinking and shooting in a poorly built shooting range. Selatius Jan 2013 #27
I'll ask the obvious question: what civilian needs a bullet that will travel 1/3 of a mile? Myrina Jan 2013 #28
The warning label on ammunition commonly used for hunting says bullets can travel up to 5 miles slackmaster Jan 2013 #30
But, but, but, those targets we heavy paper. RC Jan 2013 #32
Stupid with a firearm is dangerous. Nobody disagrees with that. slackmaster Jan 2013 #39
Good, then we can agree that some people should not have guns/weapons. RC Jan 2013 #42
Actually, there are several classes of people who cannot legally own modern firearms right now slackmaster Jan 2013 #43
Doesn't seem to be working too well, does it? RC Jan 2013 #44
There are three weak links that make the law less effective than it could be slackmaster Jan 2013 #45
And it's still a system of disqualification not the reverse. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #49
As long as the right to own one is enumerated in the Constitution, it has to be that way slackmaster Jan 2013 #50
Just checked again. Still nothing about individual ownership. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #56
So tell me, does "the right of the people peaceably to assemble" not apply to individuals? slackmaster Jan 2013 #59
One: Takes two to tango. And individual protestors... TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #60
A 410 shotgun slug can travel near 1/2 mile, oldbanjo Jan 2013 #36
Why shoot turtles? jpak Jan 2013 #38
Presumably he means snapping turtles. JoeyT Jan 2013 #64
Thin out the turtles?! NCarolinawoman Jan 2013 #52
I hate to say, but many hunting rifles can shoot as far if not further. Selatius Jan 2013 #31
The 30'06 round, can fire up to 6000 yards (over three miles) and hit something happyslug Jan 2013 #41
Pull a handgun and someone might go for it.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #58
What kind of moronic news site publishes the complete address of a crime scene? 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #29
They do that on TV news shows all the time. RC Jan 2013 #33
And the bad thing is that they will lie like hell and oldbanjo Jan 2013 #37
Welcome to another episode of "Dumbfu(%s With Assault Rifles" Dont call me Shirley Jan 2013 #46
Those two knuckleheads need to go into the database Warpy Jan 2013 #51
Trifecta! pkdu Jan 2013 #53
628 rounds for the AK's +100 for pistols + Coors beers, nice wordpix Jan 2013 #61
Since they've been charged with a felony do they lose the right to bear arms if convicted? auburngrad82 Jan 2013 #65
Yes. slackmaster Jan 2013 #66
I agree auburngrad82 Jan 2013 #67
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