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(14,162 posts) Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:17 PM Jan 2013

Sheriffs: Feds can't take away Utahns' 2nd Amendment rights [View all]

Source: KSL.com

SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah Sheriffs' Association has written an open letter to President Barack Obama, outlining its opposition to executive orders announced this week altering gun laws.

Within four hours of being posted on the Cache County Sheriff's Office Facebook page, the letter had garnered more than 150 comments and 1,000 "likes."

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The letter urges that discussions surrounding gun law reform take place in Congress, rather than through executive order, and it asks lawmakers to consider the priorities of the nation's Founding Fathers in that debate. It closes by promising the elected sheriffs will strive to protect Utahns' Constitutional rights.

"No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights — in particular Amendment II — has given them," it states.

Read more: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=23782428&nid=148&title=sheriffs-feds-cant-take-away-utahns-2nd-amendment-rights&s_cid=queue-9

"No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights... has given them.

Sheriffs offices are now claiming to be law makers, government executives and judges at the risk of the population. This is not their job. It is not their pledged and elected right. There's is only to OBEY and carry out official orders.

We are facing tyranny in the making.

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Sheriffs: Feds can't take away Utahns' 2nd Amendment rights [View all] defacto7 Jan 2013 OP

They're in for a very BIG surprise. hobbit709 Jan 2013 #1

Amazing how it's totally impossible for these same LEOs to avoid enforcing Federal Marijuana law. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #2

The Sheriff is the absolute law enforcement authority pipoman Jan 2013 #3

Except I bet dollars to donuts, when it comes to pot they will be "forced" to keep throwing stoners Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #6

Utah does have a state law against pot Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #76

My broader point is that I think these guys are picking and choosing which laws they want to enforce Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #77

When a citizen initiated referendum to outlaw cockfighting avebury Jan 2013 #92

Speaking as a former Prosecutor ... not true broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #8

I believe it varies from state to state.. pipoman Jan 2013 #18

Well . .. broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #42

no Skittles Jan 2013 #43

Oh do tell us about this continuing ed conference jberryhill Jan 2013 #46

Probably the attorney general of my state.. pipoman Jan 2013 #55

Why would it have to have been approved by the AG jberryhill Jan 2013 #58

Because licensure is through the attorney general.. pipoman Jan 2013 #64

So what? jberryhill Jan 2013 #67

Tactlessness aside, pipoman Jan 2013 #70

Do you want to know what is tactless? jberryhill Jan 2013 #71

No, pipoman Jan 2013 #74

When the Linn County Oregon Sheriff did his thing I was told by my legislator's office bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #90

Sheriffs cannot preempt federal law actually. Not once. Never. Fearless Jan 2013 #13

In The Tradition Of Bull Connor. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #23

Sounds like you've been dipping into the wingnut sheriff theory well jberryhill Jan 2013 #31

pipeman, echoing rightwing crap? Skittles Jan 2013 #44

There's RW crap and there's RW crap jberryhill Jan 2013 #45

Don't hesitate to point that out when you see it.. pipoman Jan 2013 #57

I call it as I see it Skittles Jan 2013 #91

yep..i know you will..lol pipoman Jan 2013 #96

Ways often vary as to advertising class. LanternWaste Jan 2013 #101

Wow pipoman Jan 2013 #56

A County Sheriff has no authority over federal law enforcement operations in that county jberryhill Jan 2013 #60

I contend that a problem of jurisdiction may arise pipoman Jan 2013 #66

You haven't the first idea of how law works jberryhill Jan 2013 #68

we'll see pipoman Jan 2013 #73

they can interfere with enforcement of state and fed laws Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #85

This is an unintended side effect of the English legal tradition. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #86

More State Rights Battles To Follow cantbeserious Jan 2013 #4

The Bill of Rights Politicalboi Jan 2013 #5

Nobody is taking your fucking guns you paranoid jack-ass! bunnies Jan 2013 #7

yep, exactly... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 2013 #19

heh. & maybe thats the problem... bunnies Jan 2013 #22

so tired of the pants shitting from these low-information imbeciles.. frylock Jan 2013 #28

Seriously! Is it willful ignorance? bunnies Jan 2013 #29

It's deliberate shitstiring of the ignorant for political gain. /nt TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #41

Thank God we have Sheriffs to interpret the Constitution for us. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #9

We Get The Same Results With Moron Justices Like Scalia. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #38

Are you speaking about his interpretation of the Second Amendment? Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #54

Scalia Effectively Scratched The "Well Regulated Militia" Clause From The 2nd Amendment. Paladin Jan 2013 #84

Arrest a few . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #10

Which dictatorship would you like us to use as an example? former9thward Jan 2013 #47

I see no dictatorship here at all. another_liberal Jan 2013 #48

You picked the wrong state but no matter. former9thward Jan 2013 #49

Leavenworth, Kansas, is . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #50

Funny? I don't recall Utah Sheriff's Association weighing in... KansDem Jan 2013 #11

Am I missing something here? sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #12

Nice. More volunteers to the "dead cold hands" group MyNameGoesHere Jan 2013 #14

LindaCollins11 LindaCollins11 Jan 2013 #15

Utah sheriffs swear an oath.. Permanut Jan 2013 #16

The varies sheriffs are overstepping their bounds imo as its for the courts to determine what is and cstanleytech Jan 2013 #17

Translation: "We have no fucking idea what an executive order is, and we certainly wouldn't read one struggle4progress Jan 2013 #20

Sad, but true. another_liberal Jan 2013 #39

Sheriffs don't make the law - that is for the legislature. And sheriffs don't interpret the law - kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #21

Swtiching the subject from protecting children's lives. nt caseymoz Jan 2013 #24

Why do Utahns hate children? GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #25

Not facing tyranny, just the ignorant yet again. Crow73 Jan 2013 #26

This is Utah. defacto7 Jan 2013 #78

What is up with these Sheriffs? These executive orders will save THEIR lives. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #27

These sheriffs are probably concerned mostly with re-election. amandabeech Jan 2013 #95

cut off all federal aid warrior1 Jan 2013 #30

You don't understand.... defacto7 Jan 2013 #79

bull warrior1 Jan 2013 #83

Herbert is bull. defacto7 Jan 2013 #97

These people have lived their insignificant little existence in total anonymity, old guy Jan 2013 #32

It's happening in parts of Washington state also. Gregorian Jan 2013 #33

its just not upholding its the logistics too. in my county we would run out of cops and deputies loli phabay Jan 2013 #36

paranoid assholes unite Skittles Jan 2013 #34

What morons! november3rd Jan 2013 #35

Idiots dont know an executive order from an executive action. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #37

The President heads up the Executive Branch of the Federal Government. He is not the "Commander in 24601 Jan 2013 #40

Anyone who attempts . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #52

If a sheriff interferes with federal law enforcement, he/she is going to jail jberryhill Jan 2013 #53

Just an exemplar figure of speech. Federal officials are not in a chain of command type 24601 Jan 2013 #59

No one said anything about "chain of command" jberryhill Jan 2013 #61

"I'm the law West of the Pecos!" another_liberal Jan 2013 #63

American-born terrorists aren't wasting a lot of time identifying themselves, are they? Politicub Jan 2013 #51

Then you should read the Constitution because treason is the only crime defined in the 24601 Jan 2013 #65

Because "nullification" does not exist. another_liberal Jan 2013 #69

Yeah... that worked out dandy in Little Rock in 1957 jberryhill Jan 2013 #72

Little Rock in 1957 was rebellion against a court order - that's why use of federalized troops 24601 Jan 2013 #75

Denser than uranium... jberryhill Jan 2013 #82

The National Guard reports to the Governor but can be federalized and then they fall under DoD. No 24601 Jan 2013 #93

Denser than a neutron star.... jberryhill Jan 2013 #94

You were the one mentioning interfering. Don't presume to attribute your words to me or 24601 Jan 2013 #100

Stupidity and ignorance are required to be a Sheriff in Utah nakocal Jan 2013 #62

Did anyone tell these idiots that federal law trumps statel law Coolest Ranger Jan 2013 #80

First Amendment has exemptions, so why not the Second 1Greensix Jan 2013 #81

Looks like Joe Arapaio has a buddy. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #87

One question..... Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #88

Are you sure they pledge obedience? freedom fighter jh Jan 2013 #89

It all comes down to who decides what's defacto7 Jan 2013 #98

Yes and no. freedom fighter jh Jan 2013 #99