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In reply to the discussion: Sheriffs: Feds can't take away Utahns' 2nd Amendment rights [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)45. There's RW crap and there's RW crap
As an avid fan of nutjob legal theories, the "Constitutional Sheriff" stuff is well out of "rightwing crap" territory and more on the "batshit insane" end of things.
It is in the same constellation as "Sovereign Citizen" nonsense.
The "Constitutional Sheriff" folks were the ones who held the various "citizen grand juries" which then presented "indictments" to their respective sheriff's offices in order to have President Obama brought to trial on various birther charges.
It this species of legal moonbattery which led to the interesting tale of Darren Huff and his compadres...
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/the_strange_case_of_the_ga_birther_oathkeeper_--_w.php
On Tuesday, Georgia OathKeeper Darren Huff will begin his trial for an alleged attempt to take over a Tennessee courthouse and conduct citizens arrests on local judges and officers.
Huffs troubles began in April 2010, when Walter Francis Fitzpatrick was arrested in Madisonville, Tennessee for attempting to conduct a citizens arrest on Monroe County Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway. Im charging you with official misconduct, Fitzpatrick told Pettway. Im placing you under arrest. You must now come with me. Fitzpatrick was charged with inciting a riot, disrupting an official public meeting, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
Beforehand, Fitzpatrick, who is a leader of the birther and Patriot group American Grand Jury, had written up 24 citizens arrest warrants for officials at the federal, state and local levels, calling them domestic enemies and describing President Obama as an illegal alien, infiltrator and impostor. His grievance with Pettway, it seems, was that Pettway would not agree to convene a grand jury to investigate the AGCs belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.
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Amazing how it's totally impossible for these same LEOs to avoid enforcing Federal Marijuana law.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2013
#2
Except I bet dollars to donuts, when it comes to pot they will be "forced" to keep throwing stoners
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2013
#6
My broader point is that I think these guys are picking and choosing which laws they want to enforce
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2013
#77
When the Linn County Oregon Sheriff did his thing I was told by my legislator's office
bkkyosemite
Jan 2013
#90
A County Sheriff has no authority over federal law enforcement operations in that county
jberryhill
Jan 2013
#60
Scalia Effectively Scratched The "Well Regulated Militia" Clause From The 2nd Amendment.
Paladin
Jan 2013
#84
The varies sheriffs are overstepping their bounds imo as its for the courts to determine what is and
cstanleytech
Jan 2013
#17
Translation: "We have no fucking idea what an executive order is, and we certainly wouldn't read one
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#20
Sheriffs don't make the law - that is for the legislature. And sheriffs don't interpret the law -
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#21
What is up with these Sheriffs? These executive orders will save THEIR lives.
SunSeeker
Jan 2013
#27
These people have lived their insignificant little existence in total anonymity,
old guy
Jan 2013
#32
its just not upholding its the logistics too. in my county we would run out of cops and deputies
loli phabay
Jan 2013
#36
The President heads up the Executive Branch of the Federal Government. He is not the "Commander in
24601
Jan 2013
#40
If a sheriff interferes with federal law enforcement, he/she is going to jail
jberryhill
Jan 2013
#53
Just an exemplar figure of speech. Federal officials are not in a chain of command type
24601
Jan 2013
#59
American-born terrorists aren't wasting a lot of time identifying themselves, are they?
Politicub
Jan 2013
#51
Then you should read the Constitution because treason is the only crime defined in the
24601
Jan 2013
#65
Little Rock in 1957 was rebellion against a court order - that's why use of federalized troops
24601
Jan 2013
#75
The National Guard reports to the Governor but can be federalized and then they fall under DoD. No
24601
Jan 2013
#93