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103. The use of the word weapon is the wrong way to go at this.

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:31 AM

Jan 2013

Weapon implies all guns. Handguns are almost all semi-auto, even revolvers. I do completely understand the concern with semi-auto rifles, but the media and therefore a lot of people equate semi-auto weapons with assault rifles and they are not the same. Piers Morgan berated this guy over the fact that the Bushmaster can shoot three rounds a second, and said semi-auto rifles should be banned. They guy couldn't get a word in but Morgan was wrong a fully auto rifle can shoot three to five rounds a second and has no place in society for any reason. Semi-auto only shoots one time when you pull the trigger, full auto shoots continuously until you release the trigger. One a second maybe two for a really small caliber gun with little kick. Big difference.

I am fully against full-auto anything, high capacity magazines, free for all gun shows etc.. But I like to shoot guns for fun, I don't hunt, never really could bring myself to kill something even if I was going to eat it. I can go buy it and since I am from Alabama I have many friends who have deer meat on the regular if I get a hankering for deer. Not that I ever really do.

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NRA: We will oppose semi-automatic weapons ban [View all] michigandem58 Dec 2012 OP

"Every Third World dictatorship in the country." BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #1

We've armed 99% of the "3rd World" Dictatorships. cbrer Dec 2012 #27

I'm guessing that refers to Arizona (esp. Maricopa County).... lastlib Dec 2012 #29

Yeah, that's a pretty bizarre thing to say... Deep13 Dec 2012 #32

Fact AR-15 is most popular gun, is reason enough to restrict them. Hoyt Dec 2012 #2

and? agorist Dec 2012 #5

Nice try, troll... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #7

I'm condemning bigoted gun lovers who think more guns is a good response to Sandy Hook. Hoyt Dec 2012 #11

should it be legal for people to build and sell bombs and accessories, even if they've never blown Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #41

By your reasoning.... paleotn Dec 2012 #55

how do you figure? Deep13 Dec 2012 #34

The fact gun lovers are attracted to them. They are produced and marketed to appeal to gun culture' Hoyt Dec 2012 #37

Would it have mattered if they weren't white? n/t ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #65

That's just it, where I live the folks arming up are bigots afraid minorities are going to get them. Hoyt Dec 2012 #86

my problem with the awb and magazine ban agorist Dec 2012 #3

You should be conflicted, elleng Dec 2012 #10

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #15

Owning such anti-social implements are not 'peaceful actions,' elleng Dec 2012 #18

No one is trying to take away all your guns! beac Dec 2012 #22

You must not read all the posts in these gun threads. former9thward Jan 2013 #106

Gee, you are tiresome. beac Jan 2013 #110

Month old? former9thward Jan 2013 #111

The OP was made on 12/23. My post was made on 12/23. You replied on January 21. beac Jan 2013 #114

The Supreme Court and Lurks Often Jan 2013 #105

The Second Amendment right elleng Jan 2013 #109

So, your need to shoot multiple bullets a minute into a target trumps society's need to be safe from beac Dec 2012 #14

thats a stupid argument agorist Dec 2012 #16

These objects CANNOT be used peacefully, elleng Dec 2012 #19

There are 300 million guns in the US NickB79 Dec 2012 #59

So 10,000 gun homicides a year is a reasonable number? Robb Dec 2012 #63

No, it's not reasonable at all NickB79 Dec 2012 #67

As I've said, 'these objects' refer to 'the awb and magazine ban' referred to by poster. elleng Dec 2012 #71

Funny. None of mine have ever hurt anyone. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #85

yet PaulaFarrell Dec 2012 #95

I was referring to poster's 'awb and magazine ban,' elleng Dec 2012 #68

Well, there are tens of millions of AR-15's and AK-47 clones in the US NickB79 Dec 2012 #72

Right back at you buddy. beac Dec 2012 #20

None of the stuff Jenoch Dec 2012 #48

But a "well-regulated militia" is. How many gun owners belong to a beac Dec 2012 #70

Apparently all of them NickB79 Dec 2012 #75

"the unorganized militia" So, you are claiming "unorganized" is now a synonym for "well-regulated"? beac Dec 2012 #79

I never said I agree with it, just that's what the law says NickB79 Dec 2012 #82

Why would you use an example to support your argument that you don't agree with? beac Dec 2012 #94

Haven't you heard? Jenoch Dec 2012 #90

Yes, and beac Dec 2012 #93

Really? atreides1 Dec 2012 #25

At a firing range? OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #31

Target practice, hunting, home defense NickB79 Dec 2012 #60

"Home defense" falls into your definition of "peaceful" use???? beac Dec 2012 #73

Yes, it does NickB79 Dec 2012 #77

a) We're gonna have to disagree on "peaceful" and b) just because something is "popular" beac Dec 2012 #81

I'm cool with that NickB79 Dec 2012 #84

Peacefully is not the right description atreides1 Jan 2013 #101

Why would anyone want a semi-automtic weapon? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #28

Ineresting RantinRavin Dec 2012 #40

And what do you hunt with a semi automatic? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #42

Duck, Dove, Deer, and Turkey RantinRavin Dec 2012 #44

So? With a ban, hunting might be a WEE bit harder beac Dec 2012 #76

Virtually every hunter JoeyT Dec 2012 #58

No, virtually every hunter does not.... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #66

You'd be surprised at how far semi-autos have come, accuracy-wise NickB79 Dec 2012 #69

AR-15s are extremely accurate hack89 Jan 2013 #102

The use of the word weapon is the wrong way to go at this. bamacrat Jan 2013 #103

All guns are weapons... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #104

The NRA, Gun Apologists And DU Sympathizers Should Be Ashamed, Shamed And Shunned cantbeserious Dec 2012 #4

Its CLEAR they represent gun MAKERS, not gun users, elleng Dec 2012 #6

Why is that clear? naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #100

What ban, instruments of war? Yes, they would. elleng Jan 2013 #107

I think you are living in a bubble naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #108

So, water still wet and the NRA still the nationwide marketing arm of weapons manufacturers. beac Dec 2012 #8

NRA just turned from responsible gun safety education to ME ME ME MINE MINE I'LL BLAST YOU AWAY! Panasonic Dec 2012 #9

Actually semi auto is deadlier The Green Manalishi Dec 2012 #12

The small arms automatic weapons Jenoch Dec 2012 #49

Big f'ing surprise there. CanonRay Dec 2012 #13

WELL of course you would oppose it! SoapBox Dec 2012 #17

bump firing slider stock...essentially makes AR-15 fully automatic... Evasporque Dec 2012 #21

You don't need new laws to outlaw that stock NickB79 Dec 2012 #36

Bump firing is incredbly inaccurate. Jenoch Dec 2012 #50

not by replacing parts qkvhj Dec 2012 #87

Shocking. Liberal Veteran Dec 2012 #23

Well now that's a surprise. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #24

Keene sounds like a racist. Oh, he is the NRA person...yup, he is a racist. graham4anything Dec 2012 #26

Just curious... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #33

the part about the third world dictatorships graham4anything Dec 2012 #62

Of course they will. They work for merchants of death. blackspade Dec 2012 #30

and of course new boy couldn't answer the question loyalkydem Dec 2012 #35

Killing is a sufficient purpose, I would say NickB79 Dec 2012 #39

If you need 30 round clips to kill you are a lousey shot, period. You don't need that kind of weapon loyalkydem Dec 2012 #46

I'm perfectly fine with 10-rd magazines NickB79 Dec 2012 #56

A ban on semi-automatic weapons would go far beyond AR-15's NickB79 Dec 2012 #38

I'm surprised Rhiannon 12866 hasn't blocked this article yet... jonesgirl Dec 2012 #43

this from an org that shields criminals by opposing background checks, not surprised. PUKE wordpix Dec 2012 #45

Semiautomatic is a far broader category than AR15s. Deep13 Dec 2012 #47

Dayum, I sure do want to know who AL was gaming with!! What if we're looking at an NRA conspiracy to patrice Dec 2012 #51

The Smith & Wesson rifle Jenoch Dec 2012 #52

Splitting hairs over the type of guns they REALLY are, PDJane Dec 2012 #53

Just made a rare visit to billh58 Dec 2012 #54

God, that's really the thing, isn't it? Robb Dec 2012 #57

Technical jargon is important, JoeyT Dec 2012 #61

Everyone knows what an assault rifle is? NickB79 Dec 2012 #64

When someone says "assault rifle" JoeyT Dec 2012 #74

So, if a person only uses 10-rd magazines in an AR-15 NickB79 Dec 2012 #80

Legally the gun used at Sandy Hook was not an assault rifle hack89 Dec 2012 #91

gun culture spankster1958 Jan 2013 #99

Any reference to a semi-auto rifle Jenoch Dec 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author mr_liberal Dec 2012 #78

It's not up to the NRA anymore. onehandle Dec 2012 #83

Well duh, they should, they're a pro-gun group Ter Dec 2012 #88

No wonder he was absent for 7 days. caseymoz Dec 2012 #89

Then how about this? jmowreader Dec 2012 #96

I hope they keep talking obama2terms Dec 2012 #97

Then why not send them all to third world countries? marshall Dec 2012 #98

NRA: We will oppose logical reasoning, common sense, and any semblance of morality Zoeisright Jan 2013 #112

What a bunch of complete fuckwits. Katorama Jan 2013 #113