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43. Yup, we have G.W. Bush to thank for that (do people here really prefer a declining stock market?)
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jan 2013

# Using the last closing before inauguration (G.W. Bush inaugurated noon Jan 20, 2001, Obama at noon, Jan 20, 2009)
. . # When Clinton left office and G.W. Bush took office, the S&P 500 was at 1343.
. . # When G.W. Bush left office and Obama took office, the S&P 500 was at 850.
. . # Thus under G.W. Bush, the S&P 500 dropped 37%, from 1343 to 850. While under Obama, it rose from 850 to 1486 as of Friday 1/18/13 close, up 75%.

(The above are index values, they don't include the dividends which add about another 2% / year).

Some people in this thread here (not referring to you, daleo) seem to think it is horrible news that the stock market went up under Obama, I guess that's not supposed to happen when a black man is in the WHITE House, huh? Do they think it was really all that better under G.W. Bush when the stock market dropped 37%?? (measured from the beginning of his term to the end of his term)

Yes yes yes, I get it. Most stock market gains go to the wealthy. So to hell with some shlump like me and many other non-wealthy but getting old who are trying to maintain some savings' purchasing value (i.e. at least keep up with inflation) by putting it in some stock index funds. Like over half of working Americans, I don't have any pension benefits coming, so when I'm retired, it will just be my savings and maybe $16,000/year in Social Security (in today's dollars). I am so so so sorry for wanting the stock market to go up, I'm so so sorry. Really I am.

You know what? Most income gains go to the wealthy too. So is it such horrible news that inflation-adjusted income has finally started to turn up too? I mean if it is such a crime against humanity that the stock market is going up because the wealthy get most of that, then it logically follows that it must be a crime against humanity for average incomes to go up (since the wealthy get most of that too).

SHEESH.

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Great. progressoid Jan 2013 #1
You know, I never had a "get mine" attitude like so many of my peers and frankly zonkers Jan 2013 #2
that would be nice wouldn't it CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #3
Pension funds for state, local, & federal govt workers were also invested in the market. n/t BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #11
46% of Americans have no investements in the stock market. progressoid Jan 2013 #20
a vast majority of regular 99% DO own stock, even if they do not realize it in their benefits graham4anything Jan 2013 #30
But very little stock MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #33
bottom line is ANY forward movement is a helleva lot better than static or backward movement graham4anything Jan 2013 #39
Ah, the rising tide raises all boats meme. progressoid Jan 2013 #35
I don't get why so many wall streeters give to the Republicans when Obama is clearly buttering their bloomington-lib Jan 2013 #4
had regained most of the lost ground by the time the Repugs regained the house ... zbdent Jan 2013 #5
that's pretty good for a socialist Skittles Jan 2013 #6
IKR!? Rex Jan 2013 #9
Kenyan anticolonialist Maoism Enrique Jan 2013 #14
That's exactly what I was thinking nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #22
It's not just the rich who have stock investments OKNancy Jan 2013 #7
>don't wish for the market to do poorly. If it does even the little guy suffers.< B.S. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #29
well OKNancy Jan 2013 #38
The rich own the vast majority of stocks Major Nikon Jan 2013 #37
And the Kochs and the Adelsons of America still had the nerve to vote against him? Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #8
They want cheap labor The Wizard Jan 2013 #17
Exactly. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #26
Miit: "Cut gov't spending on wind and solar power!" vkkv Jan 2013 #10
Well, Obama did hire a pro-Wall Street team Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #12
In fact, WaPo just wrote a story saying that the purpose of the Treasury Secretary Leopolds Ghost Jan 2013 #13
The Congressional height of hypocracy 90-percent Jan 2013 #15
Corporate Profits Have Grown By 171 Percent Under ‘Anti-Business’ Obama - 1/17/13 ErikJ Jan 2013 #16
Suck on it, Republicans Berlum Jan 2013 #18
That puts Obama at #3 among all presidents. #1 - FDR with 189% !! pampango Jan 2013 #19
I started by IRA when Clinton adieu Jan 2013 #21
I learned my lesson the hard way. My 401k flatlined and the lost money through GWB's terms Politicub Jan 2013 #25
TeaBag neanderthals aside broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #23
I've been trying to tell everyone this. President Obama has been good for 401k retirement accounts Politicub Jan 2013 #24
FDR #1, Obama #3 - the two presidents called 'socialist' more than any other in history... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #27
not bad samsingh Jan 2013 #28
Some will comment that the market was going to improve regardless of question everything Jan 2013 #31
Best soshalist/communist/Kenyan/mooslim preznit evah!!!! kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #32
The stock market does very well when there is a Democratic SheilaT Jan 2013 #34
stock market Vic Vinegar Jan 2013 #36
To be fair, stocks were at an awfully low level when he started daleo Jan 2013 #40
thanks for that reminder CountAllVotes Jan 2013 #42
Every year under Obama has been a great stock market year except 2011 when it was flat progree Jan 2013 #44
Yup, we have G.W. Bush to thank for that (do people here really prefer a declining stock market?) progree Jan 2013 #43
I have a little stocks but that return has beat my bank savings account interest return 10 fold. Sunlei Jan 2013 #41
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