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37. And during their reign of terror, we lost

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:31 PM

Jan 2013

solid control of the House, lost our working majority in the Senate, declined in Governorships and steadily lost control of state legislatures -- you know, the people that fixed the Congressional districts so that we can win by a million votes and still not even be close to controlling the House. These are the people that put us in a position to lose everything until the next redistricting cycle in 2020 at the earliest.

I want no part of these people. The only way we win going forward with with true progressives that aren't afraid of their own damn shadows.

And by the way, Bill Clinton wasn't exactly a win for the idea of progressive leadership. He talks a fine story today, but was happy to sell us out on trade deals, banking deregulation, and safety net items. That is what "New Democrats" do. Junior Republicans. That is and always will be a loser. Even when we win with people like that, we still lose.

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