Should guns be banned in hospitals?

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289. ...and counter-response. 8>)

1. You have missed the point entirely. How do you propose to stop criminals? Do you think that asking them politely will work? I've been in numerous hospitals. As an example, the U of Arizona Medical Center... huge place. I've never seen more than two "security" guards in the place (yes, there probably are more) and never any at an actual entrance. That place has literally hundreds of exterior doors. And if you do stop the lawful (those carrying only for non-criminal defensive purposes), how do you propose to ensure their security once they have been disarmed? Will a guard be at their side for the duration of their business?

2. So how do you explain Kelo? Sometimes the conservative bastards are right, and sometimes the liberal bastards are wrong. Welcome to reality. Firearm ownership has never been predicated on militia membership. Even if it is, we're all technically in the militia anyway.

3. Nope, nothing to do with special military rules. And I don't have to attest to anything. And yes, keep and bear does extend beyond the militia. "right of the people", not "right of the militia". There's no way to torture the grammar of the Amendment to make "militia" a limiting factor.

4. Many peoples' health, and very existance, have been ensured by use of a firearm. "Self-defense" is the term you are ignoring. Also, hunting for food. Competition shooting (good physical and mental exercise).

5. Unlicenced dealers are already illegal. Doing so in volume "out of the trunks of their cars" is pretty rare, I've never seen it at any of the shows I go to. Here in Arizona, they really try to stomp on such things, despite any fear-mongering to the contrary. If what you are really concerned about is occasional private sales, not done as a for-profit-business, that's another topic entirely. And it happens quite frequently outside of gun shows. Laws vary by state.

6. Can you cite to some stats for this? Please note that in this country, with our liberalizing of gun restrictions, our crime and murder rates have also been falling. There also seems to be little if any correlation between crime rates and stricness of gun laws. Even the CDC said they couldn't show a link to gun control effectiveness.

I had a pretty good day, thanks. Hope your was good too.