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24. I don't think losing the emotion is the way to go, actually

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:13 AM

Jan 2013

Yeah, I see how that alienates some, but without the emotion around Newtown, we wouldn't be on the verge of passing any kind of sane gun laws. Remember the last time we had any kind of sense around guns was after President Raygun got shot and the bill was named after his Communication Director, who was also shot and paralyzed? We all know his name, to this day.

It's sad that we need that emotion to galvanize us, but there it is. We fight because we are enraged that children are dying so that gun nuts don't have to give up their precious and many guns. We fight because we've found the will to care and the voice to go with it.

No one and I do mean no one, should have the right to have semi automatic (or worse, automatic) weapons. Period. Yes, I'm including the military in that. If we aren't willing to stand face to face with a man we are going to kill then we shouldn't kill him. Yeah, I know the others aren't following that. So what.

What kind of NRA fueled crap have we been fed that I'm extreme for saying that guns that are only meant for murdering people en masse, shouldn't be allowed in any household?

I'm with the blessed and very missed, Molly Ivins on this one. I'm pro-knife.

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He's playing to their racism.... alittlelark Jan 2013 #1

Obama's cool. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #2

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It's already a movie - came out in 2010. n/t bitchkitty Jan 2013 #16

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Yeah, definitely see it. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #78

Do they hunt with $1500 AR15s in this movie? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #19

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"Hunting" wasn't even a consideration when the founding fathers installed the 2A. eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #3

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Listen more? To what, more screaming and wailing about how teh gubbint gunna tack r gurhns? DRoseDARs Jan 2013 #4

You would have thought by now that everyone would have figured hack89 Jan 2013 #17

It would be easier for us to hear them talk about how we are going to Squinch Jan 2013 #52

I totally agree with Obama. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #6

I've had venison and liked it tavalon Jan 2013 #12

Isn't It Funny: Watching The Gun Rights People Embrace Hunting. Paladin Jan 2013 #20

Truth be told, I had never heard that tavalon Jan 2013 #23

you do realize Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #28

You got me, actually, I didn't and don't know my subject well enough tavalon Jan 2013 #29

thank you for not calling me names Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #32

I've said numerous times in this thread that I'm not against hunting tavalon Jan 2013 #36

What About The 30-Round Magazine, Mr. Duckhunter? Paladin Jan 2013 #31

I have no problems Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #34

"DUCKHUNTER" Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #35

Would you like Tic-Tac's or Lifesavers that only hold 5 candies? Ter Jan 2013 #47

Yeah, Because Gun Magazines And Hard Candy Are Pretty Much The Same. Paladin Jan 2013 #49

Gosh. We didn't realize. And of course, what's most important to the rest of us is Squinch Jan 2013 #54

Who said anything about me? Ter Jan 2013 #70

Move. mac56 Jan 2013 #73

You live in an abusive city......mmmmkay.... Squinch Jan 2013 #85

How about a semi-automatic with a legally modified stock? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2013 #71

I've hunted with an Browning auto rifle and shotgun sense 1969, oldbanjo Jan 2013 #61

I wish I only heard gun shots a couple of times a year BainsBane Jan 2013 #81

It's actually more than a couple of times a year here too. And, it isn't deer. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #94

Oh, I don't know. SheilaT Jan 2013 #7

I think your post shows what the President means. We are probably in near agreement on the issue. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #21

Lose a child??? onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #37

I am trying to make the point that the deaths of innocents SheilaT Jan 2013 #72

True... onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #77

Big Mistake MJJP21 Jan 2013 #8

Even in urban areas, a gun in the home safeinOhio Jan 2013 #10

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I don't dismiss hunting tavalon Jan 2013 #11

You're correct, tavalon..The crux of the problem is the large clips and truth2power Jan 2013 #39

This is where you are wrong Lurks Often Jan 2013 #42

that is such a poorly constructed thought you should be embarrassed for putting it in public farminator3000 Jan 2013 #56

You are correct. oldbanjo Jan 2013 #65

I have hunted with Browning auto rifles sense 1969. oldbanjo Jan 2013 #63

President Obama is correct Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #13

I don't think losing the emotion is the way to go, actually tavalon Jan 2013 #24

Nice post! (text below) Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #44

It was a stab at a joke that Molly Ivins first said in her amazing way tavalon Jan 2013 #57

Gotcha. I learn something new every day :) Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #62

My Florida concealed weapons permit allows me to carry a concealed knife... spin Jan 2013 #79

Swell. Now get rid of assault weapons, assault clips, and 'semi-automatic' functionality... onehandle Jan 2013 #14

What does " get rid of" mean to you? hack89 Jan 2013 #18

I know you didn't address that to me, but I'm going to answer it anyway tavalon Jan 2013 #26

Ok hack89 Jan 2013 #45

The politics of it is a minor issue the major issue thats standing in the way is cstanleytech Jan 2013 #64

Obama talking to you - old west revolvers and other "semi-auto" guns here to stay askeptic Jan 2013 #25

Call me delusional tavalon Jan 2013 #27

Then no need to look up what the word "infringe" means askeptic Jan 2013 #38

About a well armed militia? tavalon Jan 2013 #60

"giving gun nuts a reach around". Yes he was. n/t truth2power Jan 2013 #40

hunting rifle, get rid of this Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #30

If you get rid of semi-automatics... krispos42 Jan 2013 #53

My father was born in Pistol Hill, Tx., which is no longer there. During the Great Depression, Dustlawyer Jan 2013 #22

In a past life... onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #41

they need to realize that rural life and city life have different needs and expectations klyon Jan 2013 #33

ILLEGAL guns in the urban areas are the problem Lurks Often Jan 2013 #43

Obama is falling prey to the pro-gun's rhetoric - it is not all or nothing underpants Jan 2013 #46

While I support the president... jbone45 Jan 2013 #50

good point. same here... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #58

Obama is right. Ignore what he says at your peril. bluestateguy Jan 2013 #55

Good luck with that. JoeyT Jan 2013 #59

I, for one . . . Brigid Jan 2013 #66

President Obama never misses a chance to scold his base. forestpath Jan 2013 #67

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The criminal element in the big cities totally agrees with you. ... spin Jan 2013 #80

Your paranoia is noted. I know thy gun comforts you, but ever really needed a gun in the city? Hoyt Jan 2013 #84

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And proper storage is key. Brigid Jan 2013 #74

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Sigh primavera Jan 2013 #86

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Thank you, that's good information primavera Jan 2013 #102

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Such munificence! primavera Jan 2013 #98

The woods are not for your exclusive use. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #103

Exclusive use primavera Jan 2013 #105

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