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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton ‘not inclined’ to run for president in 2016 [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I was NOT a fan in 2008. She earned my respect.
in fact, I was rather opposite in my posts elsewhere on her, but I evolved watching her
and watching the two become friends and realizing the sum is bigger than the parts so to say.
same with Bill.
I was a Jerry Brown fan and a Teddy fan.
While I was damn happy a democratic candidate became President(my views on the Bush's always were constant since I first heard of 41 decades ago,let alone the bums in the plaza)
my position evolved, especially how I welcome Bill campaigning.
It took a lot of courage for President Obama to say no to Hillary being VP, and even more courage to name her SOS and it took a helleva lot for Hillary to agree to do it.
Most people cut and run. Leave the arena, whine, spend four years plotting to run against him.
I don't think any of us could have imagined the scenerio that ended up happening.
And I as always credit President Obama for looking 10 steps ahead. He saw it, and then made it happen.
And not only allowing, but avidly letting Bill campaign (HIllary by law couldn't overtly campaign while SOS for him) but having Bill be part of the team was pure genius (even if there were ulterior motives involved, that is besides the point).
As I truly want a continuation of President Obama's two terms, and as Hillary and President Obama are in synch on most (not all) of the issues, it will be, and we will move, corny as it sounds, forward.
But if you asked me this in 2008, no I was not a fan, far from it.
It took one man (President Obama) and one woman (next President Hillary) to make the village.
But damn if Hillary wasn't correct all those years ago about a rightwing conspiracy.
Never before were such words mentioned, and she too saw it all those years ago.
And Hillary has that 10 step ahead too.
There is NO way, health being the only reason, that Hillary is not going to run and win in 2016.
And she has all those like me, and almost all of the core voters like me for Barack Obama, going to vote for her. The one thing she did not have in the primaries.
And had she been the nominee, she would have creamed McCain. It might have been closer, or a few states different, but she would have easily won too.
That is what alot of people miss when saying, well she lost in 2008.
She didn't lose, he won. He is not running next time, his agenda is. And she and him are on the same wavelength. The same voters will wait in line as long as possible(or vote early) for Hillary in 2016(and 2020).
IMHO
and btw, my being a fan of President Obama goes back far. I was wearing an elect Barack Obama button back in 2004.(that's not a typo-that is 2004). for President.
But in 2016, it has to be a woman President.