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202. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:08 PM

Jan 2013

You state that you bought a diamond, even knowing the violence associated with it. Seriously WTF? You personally paid money into a violent system that will directly promote and fuel that violent system.

Yes I have bought a diamond. This was many many moons ago before I was aware of the blood and violence involved in bringing me that diamond. Will I today spend my money on another? Hell no I will not. How could I directly put money into such a deplorable industry that will in turn fan the flames of more violence? If people stopped buying the damn things the result would be that the violence would stop.

I do not buy pot, not because it is illegal, but because of the blood that was spilled to bring it to me.

If you turn a blind eye to the reality of why drug dealers, distributors, suppliers, and producers have guns, and commit acts of violence in the first place, you are simply deluding yourself.

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15-year-old girl who performed at Obama inauguration gunned down in Chicago [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jan 2013 OP

Repeal the second amendment NOW CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #1

Yes to this^^^^^^Every person who owns a gun owns this girls death! Walk away Jan 2013 #6

Writers who abuse hyperbole deserve to be taken out and shot. slackmaster Jan 2013 #16

No, put them on the confiscation team. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #24

Lots of responses from the Gun Lobby. Even one that wants to shoot me! Walk away Jan 2013 #32

Honestly MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #46

Please look up the word 'hyperbole' eom Maeve Jan 2013 #47

Since I don't own or advocate the use of guns.... Walk away Jan 2013 #65

And now I'm sorry I voted to let your post stand eom Maeve Jan 2013 #85

So, you ADMIT that reply #6 was an abuse of hyperbole. slackmaster Jan 2013 #116

Not at all. Every gun owner has done his or her part in supporting and contributing to.... Walk away Jan 2013 #139

The fact is, that every time you spend a dollar, you vote with that dollar. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2013 #173

while you responded by making a death threat BainsBane Feb 2013 #246

Same to those who believe a non-consequential and visceral reaction is part and parcel... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #75

Tasteless. caseymoz Jan 2013 #122

interesting what outages you BainsBane Jan 2013 #232

Sad. Walk away Feb 2013 #243

No^^^^^^to this. nick of time Jan 2013 #19

What you own is irrelevant to a Constitutional argument. caseymoz Jan 2013 #141

Huh? nick of time Jan 2013 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author caseymoz Jan 2013 #151

Every dollar you spend is a vote for the world you want to live in. So, being a gun owner... dorksied Jan 2013 #226

I see you have enjoyed your stay; greiner3 Jan 2013 #170

So far, yes. nick of time Jan 2013 #172

Your post is one of the reasons that sensible whistler162 Jan 2013 #21

That's a bit over the top MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #23

Yeah, but try alerting on it. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #33

Hate much? Are you a liberal with a free pass to hate? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #28

Grow up. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #98

If growing up is to approximate your status, I'll stick with my condition. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #114

While his post was somewhat juvenile, I support his position. Guns are a disease. dorksied Jan 2013 #227

Just another opinion.nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #237

I own her death? Papagoose Jan 2013 #30

I guess I'm responsible for every person killed by a drunk driver Bonduel Jan 2013 #64

coming out of the woodwork now Skittles Jan 2013 #230

Or maybe it's your fault for living in a country with a 2nd amendment. dkf Jan 2013 #71

One may only imagine then the area surrounding Sandy Hook ES was rampant with gang problems... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #87

That one was not fixable unless someone who knew him turned him in as a threat. dkf Jan 2013 #157

Fact is, if the gangs were operating out in the open, in a upper class white area, WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2013 #179

I bet that is true. dkf Jan 2013 #180

This ^^^^^ strikes me as illogical Blandocyte Jan 2013 #76

No. Everyone who smokes pot owns this girl's death guardian Jan 2013 #156

For real, but the pot smokers will need to take a break from Blandocyte Jan 2013 #159

Sadly, you do have a point. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #161

It ain't Chronic in those chambers BudHardener Jan 2013 #181

You are confusing the issue. Glassunion Jan 2013 #197

Agree with the last bit, only... BudHardener Jan 2013 #200

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Glassunion Jan 2013 #202

Not sure I agree with that dreamnightwind Jan 2013 #207

What you think, and what is reality differ from each other. Glassunion Jan 2013 #220

Sorry that's just ridiculous dreamnightwind Jan 2013 #225

No blood spilled when ya grow your own meds BudHardener Jan 2013 #208

I never mentioned "grow your own". Glassunion Jan 2013 #221

The last I heard this poor child was shot by a bullet. Every single company that... Walk away Feb 2013 #244

+1 patrice Jan 2013 #166

Laying blame on the innocent is a despicable guilt tactic davidthegnome Jan 2013 #239

Thank you ellie Jan 2013 #43

REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL! Say it again and again. SylviaD Jan 2013 #66

You say repeal, nick of time Jan 2013 #81

Repeal the 2nd Amendment? MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #82

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! Zoeisright Jan 2013 #96

You are most likely correct. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #101

They'd be an insurgency Hayabusa Jan 2013 #129

You mean like Iraq and Afghanistan? nick of time Jan 2013 #136

Continually insulting one's opponents typically doesn't get one very far. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #155

I'm not a gun owner or a fan of guns in general... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2013 #100

Yup MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #105

I thought the purpose of guns were to protect you. caseymoz Jan 2013 #146

That is the most likely outcome. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #153

All I could say is . . . caseymoz Feb 2013 #245

Please name 38 states whose legislatures could be persuaded to agree slackmaster Jan 2013 #84

Fucking A. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #95

Gun Humpers DainBramaged Jan 2013 #113

Absolutely -Society Should Not Be Held Hostage By Fear cantbeserious Jan 2013 #119

Ain't gonna happen and here is why.. BudHardener Jan 2013 #178

No need to repeal. Just do away with the creative interpretation of it. PSPS Jan 2013 #183

That would REALLY show those drug gangs who's boss. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2013 #192

The city of Chicago already has super-strict gun-control Ter Jan 2013 #206

I'm at a lack of words for this one, sooo totally F'en senseless. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2

Incredibly sad. It wouldn't be surprising to learn she was targeted because she geek tragedy Jan 2013 #3

It wouldn't surprise me to learn she was targeted by a gun nut intheflow Jan 2013 #13

Seriously? MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #25

you're serious? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #29

Really? nick of time Jan 2013 #34

That's just plain wacky n/t RZM Jan 2013 #240

Doubtful, though possible MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #14

It's my belief that this poor girl was killed for the very reason you state. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #31

Nope. She was just one person amongst many in one of those marching bands. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #79

Guns and esteem issues BudHardener Jan 2013 #185

Chicago has more than its share of fucked up, violent people for some reason slackmaster Jan 2013 #4

It is predominantly due to the resurgence of gangs frazzled Jan 2013 #26

lead poisoning leads to lead flying mopinko Jan 2013 #54

Leaded gasoline fumes? KamaAina Jan 2013 #70

that lead is still everywhere. and that is just about right. gang leaders are in their 30's and 40's mopinko Jan 2013 #176

So violent crime should be on the way out soon KamaAina Jan 2013 #177

statistics say it is. mopinko Jan 2013 #184

Prisons are bursting at the seams KamaAina Jan 2013 #189

Many of our large cities, and small ones, have problems with gang violence. amandabeech Jan 2013 #27

Change the economic cliamate and... rsmith6621 Jan 2013 #58

Haven't we had gangs since revolutionary times? derby378 Jan 2013 #63

Remember "Gangs of New York?" amandabeech Jan 2013 #68

Never mind the 19th century, the Romans had street gangs. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #233

Gangs since Neanderthal BudHardener Jan 2013 #186

That's a bit of a strecth derby378 Jan 2013 #187

You mean Banks? Big Pharma? War in Iraq? BudHardener Jan 2013 #190

It's a 'sense of belonging'. Most people thrive on being a part of something. Blanks Jan 2013 #205

Lots more decent jobs would help so many problems, amandabeech Jan 2013 #72

you're right but that also means change the drug laws wordpix Jan 2013 #211

How did New York do it? Copy their methods. New York is night and day from 1970s. nt SylviaD Jan 2013 #194

and its still not the most iamthebandfanman Jan 2013 #41

Chicago has had a long and sordid history of this since the St. Valentine's Day Massacre derby378 Jan 2013 #53

... ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #5

hit me the same way Ichingcarpenter Jan 2013 #7

. one_voice Jan 2013 #8

Am I the only one who's tired of our impotence MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #9

What's your "simple, common sense" fix for Chicago's long-standing problem with violent crime? slackmaster Jan 2013 #11

Attack teachers unions under the fake pretext that there's a budget gap, then MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #50

We don't use the Brady scorecard - try DOJ/FBI statistics instead derby378 Jan 2013 #55

The "gun death" rate is not an accurate measure of how safe a place is. The overall murder rate is. slackmaster Jan 2013 #61

Washington State has far more lax laws than California. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #77

Really? eaglesfanintn Jan 2013 #80

You've indulged in a bit of cherry-picking, which is reasonable considering that I did as well. slackmaster Jan 2013 #83

Sure eaglesfanintn Jan 2013 #86

I think that state is Maryland, not Delaware. geardaddy Jan 2013 #130

Excuse me. California is one of the low per-capita gun death rates states. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #104

The map in my previous post shows that Califonria is not one of the lowest per-capita murder states slackmaster Jan 2013 #107

Gun deaths are the topic at issue. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #204

Overall murder rates peaked in California in 1993 and have generally been on a downward trend... slackmaster Jan 2013 #228

Besides failed economic policies... Bay Boy Jan 2013 #62

Agreed. Nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #69

Agree! patrice Jan 2013 #106

Here is how I'd handle it. Shadowflash Jan 2013 #67

Terribly sad....and Wayne LaPierre is now testifying at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.... George II Jan 2013 #10

He would say. iandhr Jan 2013 #49

MORE GUNS!!! Iggo Jan 2013 #12

Sounds like a gang hit, nick of time Jan 2013 #15

Sounds like somebody shot her. Iggo Jan 2013 #37

That's what I meant. nick of time Jan 2013 #38

If you can't be somebody, get notoreity by killing someone of stature. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #39

Now that makes sense, nick of time Jan 2013 #40

This was not a person of stature RZM Jan 2013 #242

Likely political, considering the state of the gun debate. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #74

Don't think so. nick of time Jan 2013 #78

Possibly. But there's lots of crazies out there surrounding the gun issue. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #90

No doubt about that, nick of time Jan 2013 #92

You don't really know the reason why, and the reason is probably stupid, like jealousy wordpix Jan 2013 #212

You're right. nick of time Jan 2013 #214

This insanity has to stop SCantiGOP Jan 2013 #17

Everyone has the right to live slackmaster Jan 2013 #18

Yep. She should've been carrying to protect her rights, right? BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #35

No, it probably wouldn't have made any difference slackmaster Jan 2013 #42

Right. BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #89

You lost me at "Yet according to you..." slackmaster Jan 2013 #102

Unreasonable, isn't it? BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #110

I'd gladly enter into a wager about the nature of the person who murdered the girl slackmaster Jan 2013 #112

In your feverish pursuit of chasing down whatever distraction you can find BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #134

Yes, a gun. One of those things that are BANNED in Chicago. slackmaster Jan 2013 #149

When does this all end? Botany Jan 2013 #20

How sad. What a waste of young talent. athena Jan 2013 #22

... Melinda Jan 2013 #36

When will this senseless violence end? iandhr Jan 2013 #44

. patrice Jan 2013 #45

Tears also. I can hardly believe this. freshwest Jan 2013 #158

You can SEE that she's an angel, trying to do good for her community. Breaks our hearts!!! patrice Jan 2013 #162

Goddamn this world is depressing. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #48

I literally CANNOT stand hearing about these babies being killed. Not a criticism of you, OP. Happyhippychick Jan 2013 #51

All of the guns... slackmaster Jan 2013 #52

That would be the optimal solution, if it could be done IMHO ... brett_jv Jan 2013 #217

Monstrous Ian Iam Jan 2013 #56

Who knows who did this sakabatou Jan 2013 #57

My gut reaction is that the South Side should be razed by bulldozers derby378 Jan 2013 #59

The West side has the same problems. former9thward Jan 2013 #109

Yeah... derby378 Jan 2013 #120

I can hear the Right Wing now claiming Obama had her shot.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #60

Of course they will. It's perfect for them. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #93

Oh, of COURSE ... brett_jv Jan 2013 #218

Right - every gun crime from now on will be part of the conspiracy! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #241

That sounds targeted. Who done it? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #73

The 2nd amendment angrychair Jan 2013 #88

It says 'keep and bear' ... which are terms associated with military usage ... brett_jv Jan 2013 #222

I agree with you davidpdx Jan 2013 #229

A bullet through the heart of the nation. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #91

We need to treat guns like a new panademic. And the vaccine is putting a ring around it graham4anything Jan 2013 #94

Check points at the state??? former9thward Jan 2013 #152

. Paulie Jan 2013 #97

How sad!!! Beacool Jan 2013 #99

... Police said 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton was taking shelter from the rain under a canopy struggle4progress Jan 2013 #103

Yep. nick of time Jan 2013 #108

Such a vibrant, pretty girl AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #111

I weep for Chicago, and more importantly Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #115

Another "message" sent by the disgusting right wing harrose Jan 2013 #117

Not true at all. nick of time Jan 2013 #118

It can't be, because they we can't blame our political enemies for it. hughee99 Jan 2013 #121

No, no, no. nick of time Jan 2013 #123

No, I don't think it was anyone public like Hannity or Limbaugh... harrose Jan 2013 #125

I'd actually be somewhat surprised to find that out. hughee99 Jan 2013 #154

Just a week or so after the inauguration? harrose Jan 2013 #126

WGN and police have already said that it was a case of her nick of time Jan 2013 #127

I wouldn't put it above the reich wing harrose Jan 2013 #131

Maybe, but not in this case. nick of time Jan 2013 #133

You might be right... harrose Jan 2013 #135

Fair enough. nick of time Jan 2013 #138

Things that "seem random"... harrose Jan 2013 #143

True, nick of time Jan 2013 #145

What are you talking about? Beacool Jan 2013 #215

this is terrible!! hue Jan 2013 #124

i feel like crying samsingh Jan 2013 #128

Jesus Christ damnedifIknow Jan 2013 #132

sigh.... Marrah_G Jan 2013 #137

I am sick of this. Not Me Jan 2013 #140

When the extremists on both sides are silenced nick of time Jan 2013 #144

lol - your slip is showing. TBF Jan 2013 #164

My slip is showing? What does that even mean? nick of time Jan 2013 #167

That is your framing - TBF Jan 2013 #196

Indeed so.....n/t AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #175

Yeah, we should shoot them BudHardener Jan 2013 #188

Huh? nick of time Jan 2013 #209

omg how sad! please, about all the BICKERING... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #147

Why have we let it get so out of hand? WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2013 #148

This was going on before Chicago's gun laws were declared unconstitutional askeptic Jan 2013 #150

So terribly sad. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #160

lapierre is puking it up RIGHT NOW on tv. what a despicable scumbag farminator3000 Jan 2013 #163

AWESOME!!! Leahy just handed WAYNEY his sorry scummy ass on a plate farminator3000 Jan 2013 #165

You'll find that most of the gun humpers..... llmart Jan 2013 #199

i liked the hawaiian lady @ the end too farminator3000 Jan 2013 #236

the Chief from MD is pretty damn cool too farminator3000 Jan 2013 #168

also AWESOME, i think feinstein made wayney BLUSH!!! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #169

THE BEST WAY OF STOPPING A BAD GUY IN THE FIRST PLACE IS A GOOD BACKGROUND CHECK!!! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #171

Only cowards use guns on unarmed persons WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2013 #174

This is DU? A girl gets shot and people worry if the gun is okay? Scootaloo Jan 2013 #182

I don't recall seeing this hue and cry after 7 people were murdered on Saturday Dreamer Tatum Jan 2013 #191

Another way to look at it, 87 gun accidents a day. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2013 #193

So sad shenmue Jan 2013 #195

This is just so heartbreaking Danmel Jan 2013 #198

R.I.P. southern_belle Jan 2013 #201

Goddamit to fucking HELL! How long are we going to tolerate this? eridani Jan 2013 #203

I've been asking that mimi85 Jan 2013 #210

As long as we let lobbyists buy our congress people wordpix Jan 2013 #213

Very sad and it continues to drive home the need for gun control davidpdx Jan 2013 #216

For sure ... see my post above ... brett_jv Jan 2013 #219

Rest in Peace, Hadiya. mia Jan 2013 #223

Let's not kid ourselves, Chicago is out of fucking control. Send in the troops. bubbayugga Jan 2013 #224

Send them in to do what, precisely? (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2013 #234

Another victory for La Pierre and his friends BainsBane Jan 2013 #231

What a beautiful child BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #235

There is a straight line between our state's budget woes and the surge in murders AngryAmish Jan 2013 #238