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karynnj

(60,968 posts)
56. Excellent
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jan 2012

I think McCain correctly identified that with all the current Republicans, the spotlight has simply magnified the flaws. It is interesting that he does not realize that he is pretty much saying that the Republican candidates are not attractive once people actually get to see and hear them.

Calling for the debates to end - rather than, as many have done - for the candidates to stop fighting. Not to mention, ending the debates would NOT end the worst fighting, which is the ad war. I have never seen the intensity of negative ads in a primary in my entire life. Clinton and Obama were in a longer, tighter race, but none of their ads attacked the basic character and integrity of the others.

Think of the toughest Democratic ads - even those not from the candidates themselves. Clinton's most negative ad was the 3 am ad - and it questioned who you wanted to answer the call. Even the Gephardt supporters funded ad that most of Dean's opponents condemned was miles away from this. Both of those questioned how prepared the candidate attacked was to be President. The Romney/Gingrich ads have both made cases that the other was corrupt and contain what look to be documentation to back up the charges.

I wonder if McCain sees that ending the debates means that the race would become a war of ads - and the candidate he is supporting is the one spending 5 times as much as his opponent. I would imagine that if Romney moved to try to end the debates after Florida - which might happen as he was supposedly signalling that before he lost in South Carolina, it might backfire because it would give an angry Gingrich a stick to hit him with.

The real fundamental problem the Republicans have is that they are down to four very flawed candidates.

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Maybe AsahinaKimi Jan 2012 #1
for all the cons that I know the debates have destroyed the candidates for them. :) roguevalley Jan 2012 #12
"OMG, Totally! They were, like, sooooooooo cute, but then they, like, started talking." pepperbear Jan 2012 #51
Excellent karynnj Jan 2012 #56
Exactly, that's it. Besides, no one told him Rush runs the GOP... freshwest Jan 2012 #23
McCain was around during the entire time that Gingrich was in the House, and he knows what teddy51 Jan 2012 #2
mccain/gingrich....a rotten lying SOB... you pick... russspeakeasy Jan 2012 #29
almost a bumper sticker that is. m/t 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #47
But the Rethugs have decided that Romney is the lessor of the two losers rocktivity Jan 2012 #30
Republicans have never been fans of debate or democracy. They like appointed leaders. harun Jan 2012 #60
"Get off my lawn!!11!!!" NYC_SKP Jan 2012 #3
Code words for... James48 Jan 2012 #4
I absolutely agree. existentialist Jan 2012 #17
yes but 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #48
I think they have exposed Paul just as much karynnj Jan 2012 #57
Bingo!! +1 Fearless Jan 2012 #28
Not only of the candidates. The audiences. caseymoz Jan 2012 #58
He sees how they are being revealed as The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #5
Oh, yeah, John, that's the problem. Too many debates. dimbear Jan 2012 #6
“We’ve got to stop the debates,” DJ13 Jan 2012 #7
And this from the man who put the Winky Twinkie on his ticket! beac Jan 2012 #26
Winky Twinkie! Had not heard that one b4 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #49
No! More debates! Tell your local news station you want more! More! McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #8
Let's all call and write the stations 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #50
I'd tell John to keep his counsel to himself 47of74 Jan 2012 #9
Are there a lot more this time around? Seems like it. Mayberry Machiavelli Jan 2012 #10
Slightly more karynnj Jan 2012 #63
They've had 19 debates so far. There are only FOUR more left to watch. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #11
Is that a record? Ter Jan 2012 #18
Here ya go ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #20
Me too, I haven't quite decided on the crazy clown award yet....its too close to call. Historic NY Jan 2012 #67
And I can just hear what they'd say if Democrats had hardly any debates in 2016: tanyev Jan 2012 #13
Really Granpa? BadGimp Jan 2012 #14
He's right. They all look like asshats. MichiganVote Jan 2012 #15
good luck getting Newt to listen to that paulkienitz Jan 2012 #16
And didn't Newt say he wants 'seven' 3-hour debates with President Obama? Tx4obama Jan 2012 #41
Newt's a Masterdebator. Politicalboi Jan 2012 #46
and a cunning linguist waddirum Jan 2012 #54
Yes, I have heard that about him. nt Still Blue in PDX Jan 2012 #68
Keep the mud-wrestling going, I say Lifelong Protester Jan 2012 #19
c'mon gramps.... unkachuck Jan 2012 #21
Let's have daily debates! One can never have enough meaningless self destructive idiocy! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2012 #22
McCain got nominated very swiftly and easily in 2008 NAO Jan 2012 #24
It didnt surprise me because McCain does appeal to cstanleytech Jan 2012 #43
They had 21 debates karynnj Jan 2012 #65
Well looks like McInsane isn't as crazy as I thought.. Kalidurga Jan 2012 #25
DING DING DING! Kalidurga, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Jan 2012 #33
TRANSLATION: "Stop The Debates Now that Romney Is Ahead" rocktivity Jan 2012 #27
Didn't he say the same thing back in '08? Zambero Jan 2012 #31
Trying to drive down audience size for whoever ends up debating Obama. patrice Jan 2012 #32
Hey, McCain : Your "candidates views" are what is driving up their unfavorable numbers. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #34
So their incompetences, irrationalities and bizarre behaviors/beliefs are not RKP5637 Jan 2012 #35
The guy who doesn't know how many Swiss bank accounts he has is being protected.... groundloop Jan 2012 #36
LOL Skittles Jan 2012 #37
aka stop putting our stupidity and hypocrisy on display!!! now get off my lawn!!! Grrrr!! nt Javaman Jan 2012 #38
As usual, I disagree with McCain. IndyJones Jan 2012 #39
kick. LadyInAZ Jan 2012 #40
K&R Lmao Firebrand Gary Jan 2012 #42
So is John trying to outcrazy Ron Paul? Rex Jan 2012 #44
A campaign is like dating, the debates are like living with someone LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2012 #45
McCain, the Peace Maker enters, stage right. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2012 #52
McCain is so on it...... Guy Montag Jan 2012 #53
"Cheap fabric(ations) and dim lighting. That's how you move merchandise." Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2012 #55
They are exposing themselves as being the greatest single threat to the Republic. olegramps Jan 2012 #59
So what does McCain think of Newt's talk of Lincoln Douglas debates with Obama? yellowcanine Jan 2012 #61
But then we don't get candid classic photos from the debates, like this memorable one.... LynneSin Jan 2012 #62
That never gets old! LOL PassingFair Jan 2012 #66
I love it! Can we get this in an ad? ecstatic Jan 2012 #64
McCain "You can't handle the truth" for all voters to see. tabatha Jan 2012 #69
Typical repuke. Lie, cover up, lie some more, than refuse to talk about it. Zoeisright Jan 2012 #70
How about this instead... brooklynite Jan 2012 #71
More Cowbells, what we need is more cowbells kemah Jan 2012 #72
He really doesn't like EC Jan 2012 #73
LOL Debates make republicans look bad TNLib Jan 2012 #74
The media wants, this, though. They are feeding it. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #75
The only good thing about these debates is that they are eating their own, and they are showing mother earth Jan 2012 #76
Fuck that shit -- the GOP debates are AWESOME!!!1! Blue Owl Jan 2012 #77
Hide the candidates!!! Thats the solution! Hide the candidates!!! This guy is nuts too. n/t deacon Jan 2012 #78
MORE debates, I say! MORE! The more the merrier! nt MADem Jan 2012 #79
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