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In reply to the discussion: White House rebuffed Clinton-Petraeus plan to arm Syrian rebels: report [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)63. Rand Paul says the US is already arming Syrian rebels through a Libya-Turkey-Syria pipeline.
Rand Paul Pushes Gun-Running Conspiracy (Libya to Turkey to Syria) Theory During Benghazi Hearing.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) used todays hearing on the Benghazi attack to confront Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about a conspiracy theory involving moving guns from Libya to Syrian rebels.
Paul, a new member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, wasted no time in making a mark on the proceedings. After informing Secretary Clinton that he would have fired her for her role in the response to the attack, Paul came seemingly out of nowhere to ask Clinton about Turkey. Is the U.S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya? he asked.
A clearly confused Clinton responded to the best of her ability:
Pauls inquiry about Turkey seems less odd if youre familiar with Glenn Beck-inspired conspiracy theories that have been circulating among right-wing websites since the attacks in Libya. The theory goes that Ambassador Chris Stevens who was killed during the attack was deeply involved in the CIA project of gathering loose arms in Libya in the aftermath of Moammar Qaddafis downfall. Stevens then facilitated the movement of those arms from Libya to Turkey, where they then went on to Syria. The secrecy involved in moving those weapons under the table is part of why the Obama administration covered up the truth of the attack, according to the theory, which even Fox News has helped spread.
The Obama administration has repeatedly said that it will not be providing arms to the rebels in Syria, which this theory claims to counter. While the CIA was involved with helping round up the loose arms that were rampant in Libya, there is no evidence that Stevens or the State Department was involved in the operation, nor that the arms were then shipped to Syria. That Sen. Paul would use his first hearing on the Foreign Relations Committee to push this theory, despite the fact even if it were true it would fall outside of Secretary Clintons purview, does not say great things about his future on the body.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/01/23/1485661/rand-paul-conspiracy-theory-libya/
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) used todays hearing on the Benghazi attack to confront Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about a conspiracy theory involving moving guns from Libya to Syrian rebels.
Paul, a new member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, wasted no time in making a mark on the proceedings. After informing Secretary Clinton that he would have fired her for her role in the response to the attack, Paul came seemingly out of nowhere to ask Clinton about Turkey. Is the U.S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya? he asked.
A clearly confused Clinton responded to the best of her ability:
CLINTON: To Turkey? I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody has ever raised that with me.
PAUL: Its been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that they may have weapons and what Id like to know is the annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, any countries, Turkey included?
Pauls inquiry about Turkey seems less odd if youre familiar with Glenn Beck-inspired conspiracy theories that have been circulating among right-wing websites since the attacks in Libya. The theory goes that Ambassador Chris Stevens who was killed during the attack was deeply involved in the CIA project of gathering loose arms in Libya in the aftermath of Moammar Qaddafis downfall. Stevens then facilitated the movement of those arms from Libya to Turkey, where they then went on to Syria. The secrecy involved in moving those weapons under the table is part of why the Obama administration covered up the truth of the attack, according to the theory, which even Fox News has helped spread.
The Obama administration has repeatedly said that it will not be providing arms to the rebels in Syria, which this theory claims to counter. While the CIA was involved with helping round up the loose arms that were rampant in Libya, there is no evidence that Stevens or the State Department was involved in the operation, nor that the arms were then shipped to Syria. That Sen. Paul would use his first hearing on the Foreign Relations Committee to push this theory, despite the fact even if it were true it would fall outside of Secretary Clintons purview, does not say great things about his future on the body.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/01/23/1485661/rand-paul-conspiracy-theory-libya/
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White House rebuffed Clinton-Petraeus plan to arm Syrian rebels: report [View all]
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2013
OP
My big reservation about her, too. There is no way Kerry or Hagel would
TwilightGardener
Feb 2013
#14
The NYT article looked like it came from Clinton people - giving her credit for any Obama successes
Pirate Smile
Feb 2013
#53
Rand Paul says the US is already arming Syrian rebels through a Libya-Turkey-Syria pipeline.
pampango
Feb 2013
#63
Hopefully just a crackpot theory. But I will argue that today's story, that
TwilightGardener
Feb 2013
#66
Apparently Rand Paul does not think that the arms plan was 'rebuffed' by President Obama.
pampango
Feb 2013
#69
Who cares if you're confusing simplistic movie fantasy with the real world?
JackRiddler
Feb 2013
#28
But aren't the fascists the rebels? Don't they want to be more like the west? nt
kelliekat44
Feb 2013
#40
Wasn't just an idea. The Benghazi incident was related to the pipeline to Syria.
leveymg
Feb 2013
#13
Yes. Hillary, too. She was the real mover behind the Libya-Syria regime change operation.
leveymg
Feb 2013
#12
Rather, she's a politically sophisticated and aggressive neocon with close ties to the Gulf Arabs
leveymg
Feb 2013
#18
Indeed good to see Obama use his own judgment and avoiding a "reckless adventure"
pampango
Feb 2013
#8
I've been telling you this is what happened. Bengahazi was blow-back from that operation.
leveymg
Feb 2013
#11
She had tenure as SoS for one term. It's not clear she had decided to leave until after Benghazi.
leveymg
Feb 2013
#19
Yeah, that must be why Hillary had already announced that she didn't plan to stay for a second term
Beacool
Feb 2013
#46
It's Reuters citing the New York Times citing "unnamed Obama administration officials"
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#24
Seems like a trend lately, don't like the content of an article...tarnish the source regardless of
Purveyor
Feb 2013
#77
It's 100% John Kerry's responsiblity now.Time for campaigning is over. Time for Job is now.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#54
When did Kerry become President? That kind of decision is made by the President
karynnj
Feb 2013
#71