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In reply to the discussion: Shafia trial jurors find family guilty of 1st-degree murder [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)42. yes, worth taking a look
It's comprehensive.
The following excerpt is fair/use dealing from a 67-page document (it's on the second last page; emphases mine):
The Crowns last witness in making its case was an expert in honour killings. Shahrzad Mojab is a University of Toronto professor who co-edited a book called Violence in the Name of Honour.
Mojab acknowledged that honour killings are not restricted to Islam, though the UN report suggests its more prevalent in these societies.
It doesnt have any direct connection with religion at all, Mojab testified. It is not unique to any particular religion. We see it among Hindus. We see it among Jews and Christians in the (Middle East) region. It is also not limited to the Middle East or the Arab world.
Mojab took pains to explain that underpinning the violence is, in fact, the idea of control of the female members of the family in a patriarchal society.
If a man cannot control his own household, which is represented by the behaviour of the female members of the family, he cannot be trusted for any other public matters, including financial relationships, Mojab explained.
A womans body is considered to be the repository of family honour, she said, mentioning that Arab adage, A mans honour lies between the legs of a woman.
For some, an honour killing may even be seen as an act of mercy, she continued. It is part of the continuum of love and care. Living as a dishonoured member of the family the suffering of that is greater than death.
So if a womans reputation is perceived to be tainted, through premarital sex or rape, taking an unauthorized boyfriend, asking for divorce, even exerting her independence, Cleansing ones honour of shame is typically handled by the shedding of blood, Mojab said.
Its really about mens need to control womens sexuality and freedom.
Mojab acknowledged that honour killings are not restricted to Islam, though the UN report suggests its more prevalent in these societies.
It doesnt have any direct connection with religion at all, Mojab testified. It is not unique to any particular religion. We see it among Hindus. We see it among Jews and Christians in the (Middle East) region. It is also not limited to the Middle East or the Arab world.
Mojab took pains to explain that underpinning the violence is, in fact, the idea of control of the female members of the family in a patriarchal society.
If a man cannot control his own household, which is represented by the behaviour of the female members of the family, he cannot be trusted for any other public matters, including financial relationships, Mojab explained.
A womans body is considered to be the repository of family honour, she said, mentioning that Arab adage, A mans honour lies between the legs of a woman.
For some, an honour killing may even be seen as an act of mercy, she continued. It is part of the continuum of love and care. Living as a dishonoured member of the family the suffering of that is greater than death.
So if a womans reputation is perceived to be tainted, through premarital sex or rape, taking an unauthorized boyfriend, asking for divorce, even exerting her independence, Cleansing ones honour of shame is typically handled by the shedding of blood, Mojab said.
Its really about mens need to control womens sexuality and freedom.
I still don't see any manifestation of this in the Shafia case. Shafia's ego, not his honour, was bruised.
Again, is a regular old native-born white Christian western man who kills his adulterous wife committing an honour killing? ... or, more importantly, would it occur to anyone to say he was?
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Wonder how those SOBs would feel about a little Eye For An Eye justice, since they're so into their
MADem
Jan 2012
#6
AS I said a bit downthread, the son will be in his mid forties when he's up for parole.
MADem
Jan 2012
#10
So, the son will be in his mid forties when he might be unleashed upon the unsuspecting public.
MADem
Jan 2012
#9
Well, he beat the chair thanks to a law change, and he's south of the Canadian border, too.
MADem
Jan 2012
#15
The judge who sat through all of the trial and testimony called it an honour killing.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#43
You can semantically parse the judges words all you like but the meaning is plain
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#53
Uh huh, that's fine. I've no desire to run for anything and will continue to work with abused women
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#55
You have an agenda and purposefully left out the rest of the judge's quote.
riderinthestorm
Jan 2012
#49