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davidthegnome

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14. Because in the vast majority of cases they are.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:04 PM
Feb 2013

Those experiments, of course, tend to go back and forth. I mean, consider the prohibition. I'll grant that it's an extreme example - but it created a whole new kind of criminal. The bootleggers bribed hundreds if not thousands of police and government officials, killed a whole lot of innocents and intimidated many more. This "noble experiment" was inspired, generally, by white protestants who I'm sure felt that they should have the right to tell people what to drink - or what not to drink.

As far as health issues go, hey, I'm all for creating a healthier world - but not if it's done by restricting individual freedom or through a roundabout approach towards forcing people to eat what's good for them. It should always come down to a choice - and while this sort of legislation still permits that, to me it seems but the first (baby) step towards enforcing "thinness".

I believe that people are generally well intentioned, I don't believe the same thing of politicians. Consider the super PACs, the amount of money that went into the last Presidential election. It's entirely possible to buy a Senator, Congress Critter, or what have you - just as it was possible during the Prohibition to buy police, mayors, governors - and so on - to protect your "illegal" operations.

How does any totalitarian regime begin? It is rarely through immediate, urgent power shifting. Rather, it begins with a nudge. While I'm not going so far as to say that this effort is the beginnings of totalitarian control by itself, it is simply one of many policies that wear the mask of concern (in this instance, for citizens health) while the true agenda is something entirely different. Our politicians, our government... wants us to be healthier? Maybe, but not for the reasons you might think. A healthier citizen will live longer, pay taxes longer, contribute more to our twisted society of consumerism and conformity.

Consider mandatory education and it's origins. An entire system of forced education (a ridiculous notion to begin with) - created for the sake of inspiring perfect little worker bees. Of creating and maintaining a land full of conformists, the sort that generally would not "make waves".

It's simply a symptom of the times. Where as you see an honest effort to improve public health, I consider the implications of this taking place during this era of union busting, of education reform, of corporate greed and power unrivaled by any land or any time in history.

I don't love fast food companies or companies, I could live without soda. It's my suspicion though, that soda and fast food will be replaced with some corporate brand of fruit, vegetable, or juice. We'll be healthier, maybe, but we'll also be given more limits on what we can buy. Hand in hand with these slimy corporations, the governments of the west will legislate us into eating whatever fills their pockets and serves their corporate masters.

Sure, I'm paranoid. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

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Excellent idea! onwardsand upwards Feb 2013 #1
It's the logical progression from the way cigarettes are treated magellan Feb 2013 #2
Not Fizzy Lifting Drinks, I hope! Orrex Feb 2013 #3
We need to taz something that is really deadly whistler162 Feb 2013 #4
/dopeslap keroro gunsou Feb 2013 #5
Doctors in the UK call for these health issues to be addressed. USA Dr.s say, bring $ and insurance. Sunlei Feb 2013 #6
"USA Dr's say bring $ and insurance or drop dead plump people" T_i_B Feb 2013 #8
difference is the UK has healthcare for ALL, USA citizens have to pay or crawl to emergency to die Sunlei Feb 2013 #12
That's exactly what the UK government is trying to dismantle T_i_B Feb 2013 #20
The UK has the USA as an example of private healthcare fraud/costs,they won't ruin ruin their system Sunlei Feb 2013 #25
Uh, yay for The Nanny State? davidthegnome Feb 2013 #7
The state DOES have the power to legislate such things here Prophet 451 Feb 2013 #10
USA neighborhoods can regulate and fine for, grass height, no cars on sunday,no alcohol, lots more.. Sunlei Feb 2013 #26
Why assume that things will be taken to extremes? People are generally well-intentioned bhikkhu Feb 2013 #11
Because in the vast majority of cases they are. davidthegnome Feb 2013 #14
It's doctors who want this, not politicians, or corporations muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #16
Doctors don't pass legislation davidthegnome Feb 2013 #17
So it's the doctors you are attacking muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #18
"Obesity in Young Is Seen as Falling in Several (U.S.) Cities" KurtNYC Feb 2013 #13
Well then davidthegnome Feb 2013 #15
Misleading headline. "Fizzy drinks" are not being banned. mainer Feb 2013 #9
"Fizzy drinks" in the UK HoneychildMooseMoss Feb 2013 #19
mainer is right about the headline T_i_B Feb 2013 #23
I'd be OK with banning junk food ads ONLY from kids' TV programs. alp227 Feb 2013 #21
For clarity dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #22
As a person that has struggled with weight their whole life... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #24
Great idea! Wellness rules. graham4anything Feb 2013 #27
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