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muriel_volestrangler

(106,117 posts)
18. So it's the doctors you are attacking
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:02 PM
Feb 2013

"What I find suspect, are the motives of those who would promote, pass - and ultimately enforce such legislation."

It's the doctors promoting this. So it's the motives of doctors you are attacking. Or of any politician who listens, in the future, to the doctors.

"Nutritional benefits will be (and have been) sacrificed for the sake of profit."

Yes, this is the point of the report. You're agreeing with it.

"If our governments and health institutions are overall enabled to become solely responsible for our diets"

Straw man. This is not saying they'd be solely responsible for diet. This is about them providing healthy possibilities (rather than, say, only having junk food vending machines available during night shifts). It's not about banning anything ("I can just imagine a world where we have to have illegal institutions in order to purchase cheese burgers, milk shakes, or soda" - good, because no-one is suggesting banning any type of food or drink). Alcohol isn't banned, in western countries; but it is taxed, with part of the reasoning being to direct people to healthier alternatives.

"I'm all for better health. I just think we should have the right to seek it for ourselves. Or, the right to choose otherwise."

You have the right. But that doesn't mean giving the junk food corporations free rein to make their profits without regulation.

"If we really want a healthier world, perhaps we should be pouring more money into nutritional education"

Recommendation #1:

Education and training programmes for healthcare professionals:
Royal Colleges, Faculties and other professional clinical bodies should
promote targeted education and training programmes within the next two
years for healthcare professionals in both primary and secondary care to
ensure ‘making every contact count’ becomes a reality, particularly for
those who have most influence on patient behaviour


Recommendation #5:
Nutritional standards in schools: The existing mandatory food- and
nutrient-based standards in England should be applied to all schools
including free schools and academies. This should be accompanied by
a new statutory requirement on all schools to provide food skills, including
cooking, and growing – alongside a sound theoretical understanding of
the long-term effects of food on health and the environment from the
2014/15 academic year

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Excellent idea! onwardsand upwards Feb 2013 #1
It's the logical progression from the way cigarettes are treated magellan Feb 2013 #2
Not Fizzy Lifting Drinks, I hope! Orrex Feb 2013 #3
We need to taz something that is really deadly whistler162 Feb 2013 #4
/dopeslap keroro gunsou Feb 2013 #5
Doctors in the UK call for these health issues to be addressed. USA Dr.s say, bring $ and insurance. Sunlei Feb 2013 #6
"USA Dr's say bring $ and insurance or drop dead plump people" T_i_B Feb 2013 #8
difference is the UK has healthcare for ALL, USA citizens have to pay or crawl to emergency to die Sunlei Feb 2013 #12
That's exactly what the UK government is trying to dismantle T_i_B Feb 2013 #20
The UK has the USA as an example of private healthcare fraud/costs,they won't ruin ruin their system Sunlei Feb 2013 #25
Uh, yay for The Nanny State? davidthegnome Feb 2013 #7
The state DOES have the power to legislate such things here Prophet 451 Feb 2013 #10
USA neighborhoods can regulate and fine for, grass height, no cars on sunday,no alcohol, lots more.. Sunlei Feb 2013 #26
Why assume that things will be taken to extremes? People are generally well-intentioned bhikkhu Feb 2013 #11
Because in the vast majority of cases they are. davidthegnome Feb 2013 #14
It's doctors who want this, not politicians, or corporations muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #16
Doctors don't pass legislation davidthegnome Feb 2013 #17
So it's the doctors you are attacking muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #18
"Obesity in Young Is Seen as Falling in Several (U.S.) Cities" KurtNYC Feb 2013 #13
Well then davidthegnome Feb 2013 #15
Misleading headline. "Fizzy drinks" are not being banned. mainer Feb 2013 #9
"Fizzy drinks" in the UK HoneychildMooseMoss Feb 2013 #19
mainer is right about the headline T_i_B Feb 2013 #23
I'd be OK with banning junk food ads ONLY from kids' TV programs. alp227 Feb 2013 #21
For clarity dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #22
As a person that has struggled with weight their whole life... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #24
Great idea! Wellness rules. graham4anything Feb 2013 #27
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