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23. How are you defining "public shootings"?

Reply to Botany (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:23 PM

Feb 2013

because there are many cases of people with concealed carry guns stopping violent crimes in public.

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Several Dead In Southern California Shooting Spree [View all] Purveyor Feb 2013 OP

more guns deaths. samsingh Feb 2013 #1

How many more? Botany Feb 2013 #2

I just turned on CNN, no mention of it sasha031 Feb 2013 #3

Don't know, but if "gang related", not as "newsworthy?" Eom elfin Feb 2013 #11

It's the price of keeping King George off our asses. onehandle Feb 2013 #4

Actually not. Remmah2 Feb 2013 #12

Just another typical day in gun crazy America. Light House Feb 2013 #5

And look at these American "Freedom Fighters" getting weapons to help keep us all free. Botany Feb 2013 #6

I went to a gun show one time just out of curiosity Light House Feb 2013 #9

I can relate. Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #13

Did the gun candles scare you? Bay Boy Feb 2013 #85

Sure is interesting that they're never around Myrina Feb 2013 #16

the total # of public shootings that have been stopped by a civilian who was packing in America is Botany Feb 2013 #22

How are you defining "public shootings"? hack89 Feb 2013 #23

not one case of what they call a mass shooting* .... either shooting strangers or co-workers has ... Botany Feb 2013 #26

Mass shooting are extremely rare hack89 Feb 2013 #27

"Mass shooting are extremely rare" Botany Feb 2013 #28

Compared to everyday violent crime it is . hack89 Feb 2013 #29

oh for the love of dog Botany Feb 2013 #31

So hard facts and actual statistics are of no use for you? hack89 Feb 2013 #32

Look how safe the baby from Newton, CT is inside his or her coffin. Botany Feb 2013 #34

Neither VPC nor the NRA are "honest brokers" derby378 Feb 2013 #38

Except more guns have not led to more killings hack89 Feb 2013 #93

Actually, I have been safer... primavera Feb 2013 #80

There are many places in America just as safe as Europe hack89 Feb 2013 #89

Irrelevant primavera Feb 2013 #113

It is not if those pockets are persistent hack89 Feb 2013 #114

So do you think their social, education, employment and healthcare policies played a role hack89 Feb 2013 #91

"or was it just guns?" Botany Feb 2013 #96

So what laws do you want to see? hack89 Feb 2013 #97

I, for one... primavera Feb 2013 #103

e.z. my laws Botany Feb 2013 #104

Ok nt hack89 Feb 2013 #105

Certainly, very few problems in life are the result of just one single cause primavera Feb 2013 #102

Yes!!! goclark Feb 2013 #68

If you are armed (because you want to guard against mass shootings) and you are kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #55

Only a fool with a concealed gun would try to take on a mass shooter hack89 Feb 2013 #57

What are you protecting them against, then? IveWornAHundredPants Feb 2013 #62

Muggers and other street criminals mainly hack89 Feb 2013 #65

I have to ask mokawanis Feb 2013 #70

Only once and I didn't have to shoot hack89 Feb 2013 #71

Somebody cut in line at the bank, did they? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #81

LOL! n/t bitchkitty Feb 2013 #83

Attempted robbery. nt hack89 Feb 2013 #87

Did you draw down on the perp and hold him/her for the police. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #106

That would be illegal- CCW holders are not cops friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #108

So someone "attempts" a robbery and you can't hold them for the cops? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #109

Once they turn to run, what do you do? Shot them in the back? hack89 Feb 2013 #112

If someone attempts a felony on my person and I'm armed, I'm drawing the weapon., Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #115

Of course you would. You are nothing but predictable. hack89 Feb 2013 #116

I'm not calling you a liar. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #117

So because I was not acting like a cowboy or a vigilante hack89 Feb 2013 #118

I flashed my gun hack89 Feb 2013 #110

Don't forget how they're going to protect us from tyranny Doctor_J Feb 2013 #73

Reprehensible, but why? sofa king Feb 2013 #7

Armchair guess here, but it seems likely that it's a (sick & twisted) way to assert control Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #10

The gun nuts took away the dead Americans' freedom. The freedom to live. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #8

Off this topic but... Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #14

Thanks! Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #15

That is a Charlie Brown Penquine. lol --on topic--> these shootings eilen Feb 2013 #66

Authorities: 4 dead in California shooting spree FarCenter Feb 2013 #17

Thank you, all you RW moron gun nuts. baldguy Feb 2013 #18

Where were all the goodguyswithguns? Iggo Feb 2013 #19

Not allowed in California. krispos42 Feb 2013 #59

Damn near. Iggo Feb 2013 #63

If only it had been raining guns, this could have been prevented. valerief Feb 2013 #20

wild wild west goclark Feb 2013 #21

Gun violence is actually at a 30 year low hack89 Feb 2013 #24

Yet, the gun culture still promotes more guns in more places.. Hoyt Feb 2013 #54

And what happens when gun violence continues to decline? hack89 Feb 2013 #56

Fortunately, vast majority don't need them or accept the bad things that happen because of them. Hoyt Feb 2013 #58

You keep believing that if it makes you feel better. hack89 Feb 2013 #60

Both the gun rights groups and the gun control supporters push the misconception .... spin Feb 2013 #82

Why not ban "assault" type weapons? If one is truly law-abiding and gives a dang about society, Hoyt Feb 2013 #84

We could argue about this all day but the simple fact is that ... spin Feb 2013 #100

And yet... Dakotacrat Feb 2013 #61

But it continues to decline hack89 Feb 2013 #64

It just shows how grossly disproportionate we were and still are. morningfog Feb 2013 #77

We have cut our murder and manslaughter rate in half since 1992 hack89 Feb 2013 #90

The difference is that now goclark Feb 2013 #67

The biggest issue is mental health care hack89 Feb 2013 #69

And yet we lead the world by a wide margin Doctor_J Feb 2013 #74

There are many countries with higher levels of gun violence hack89 Feb 2013 #75

Sorry. I meant the civilized world Doctor_J Feb 2013 #76

We have cut our murder and manslaughter rates in half hack89 Feb 2013 #92

We're not "getting" anywhere Doctor_J Feb 2013 #98

So what is your solution? hack89 Feb 2013 #99

You threw a lot of uncited stats out. morningfog Feb 2013 #78

Just making stuff up again I see Botany Feb 2013 #79

20 shootings is a bad weekend in Chicago. hack89 Feb 2013 #86

So what are your solutions? hack89 Feb 2013 #94

It is possible more people were shot at because some people may have chased the shooter, Kanoti said midwest irish Feb 2013 #25

Fuck guns and anybody who defends them Hugabear Feb 2013 #30

+10.000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #72

Need to read the manifesto before I pass judgment. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #33

+1 EOM Purveyor Feb 2013 #35

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I care about people who are murdered Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #37

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Show me where I said everyone. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #40

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Here is the quote for people with better reading and comprehension skills than you: Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #42

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No, it sounds like what you're really like. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #46

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It's Democratic Underground, not Bully People I Don't Like Underground. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #50

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hah nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #52

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That isn't exactly a quote to be proud of....and spreading around. Ash_F Feb 2013 #95

Knock it off, both of you derby378 Feb 2013 #43

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Not all of DU. But clearly "all" vs "some" Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #47

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+1 treestar Feb 2013 #88

Alas, if only the shooting spree had guns!!!! valerief Feb 2013 #101

Ashamed of my country ... yet again. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #107

Another Manchurian Candidate on Prozac...... lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #111