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longship

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1. Going to Mars is a very tough task.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 07:29 PM
Feb 2013

Even landing safely on Mars is extremely difficult. Getting there alive is likely even more difficult. Just taking along the food and other consumables for a well over one year round trip for the crew is out of our current capabilities.

Plus, you have:

* Solar flares
* Cosmic rays
* Cosmic particles at 25,000 miles per hour.
* Long term exposure to micro gravity
* Psychological stresses from long term isolation.
* Fuel requirements for return trip likely prohibitive.
* Unknown unknowns, not listed above.

I don't see this happening that soon. The space craft would have to be large just to store the consumables and protect the astronauts from the dangers of deep space for well over a year.

We're not talking about living on the ISS, which is still in low Earth orbit and within the protection of the Van Allen belts. And we're not talking a three day trip to the moon. This is an over 500 day trip to Mars and back, where if anything goes wrong, those guys are toast.

I am sure there will plenty of volunteers, and I wish them well. But this is a very tough nut to crack. They ought to send two couples. Interpret that whatever way you want. But sex in microgravity ought to be just grand.

I am for this. I just don't see it happening that soon.

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Going to Mars is a very tough task. longship Feb 2013 #1
Taber MacCallum and Jane Poynter spent two years in Biosphere 2 bananas Feb 2013 #4
Well, I am not so impressed with biosphere. longship Feb 2013 #7
As mentioned downthread, they probably won't land bananas Feb 2013 #15
You are correct, but not complete. longship Feb 2013 #16
Don't need a Saturn V bananas Feb 2013 #24
I love the Lagrangian point solutions! longship Feb 2013 #25
More details have emerged - 2 person flyby bananas Feb 2013 #27
I guess they are planning to do it like the early Polar Expeditions. Hugin Feb 2013 #38
Actually... oNobodyo Feb 2013 #10
Except that the US does not have a heavy lift booster. longship Feb 2013 #12
Ahem... oNobodyo Feb 2013 #19
Good. Good!! longship Feb 2013 #20
The reason why... oNobodyo Feb 2013 #22
But the Saturn V is four decades old. longship Feb 2013 #23
I agree with pre-supplied... Volaris Feb 2013 #46
"robotics to set up shelter" is not something that's been available for 20 years muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #17
yeap... oNobodyo Feb 2013 #21
Solar sails and electric propulsion have never carried anything as large as a human capsule muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #26
Sounds like the people wouldn't land muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #2
They probably won't land on Mars, they might dock with Phobos or Deimos bananas Feb 2013 #5
More details have emerged - 2 person flyby bananas Feb 2013 #28
A fly-by would mean there's relatively little to do at Mars muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #29
Where do I sign up???????????? greiner3 Feb 2013 #3
I did manage five on a mission long ways back. dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #6
Shit. Just my booze allowance means no one else eats...... cliffordu Feb 2013 #8
It ain't gonna happen in the next five years. struggle4progress Feb 2013 #9
So do they get land rights like the pioneers? They'll privatize Mars now. YOHABLO Feb 2013 #11
In the future, Mars will most likely be the first terraforming project derby378 Feb 2013 #13
That was the theme of Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy LongTomH Feb 2013 #31
I may have to check those books out derby378 Feb 2013 #32
Unless they can rig up a magnetosphere for either planet it's pointless. Bucky Feb 2013 #43
For that, you'll either need an active planetary core or a STAR WARS-type magnetic field derby378 Feb 2013 #45
Do a columbus and plant your flag claiming the planet for your company rustydog Feb 2013 #30
Not a bad incentive. Maybe the UN could put down rules. Bucky Feb 2013 #36
Some kind of 'global government' will be needed to set rules if we do start colonizing other pampango Feb 2013 #40
The more I think about it, the more I expect the UN not to be involved in such a process. Bucky Feb 2013 #41
There's justified optimism skepticscott Feb 2013 #14
Well, if you throw enough money at a problem... randome Feb 2013 #18
Tito Jackson? undeterred Feb 2013 #33
Never happen in five years daleo Feb 2013 #34
"Space for this event is limited." Bucky Feb 2013 #35
So very cool trip to Mars, though I wish they would set-up on the floor of our Oceans first. Sunlei Feb 2013 #37
I'll say it again... It's time to Man-up and send a Chimp! Hugin Feb 2013 #39
There's a country in North Africa where a bunch of people would like to send their President to Mars slackmaster Feb 2013 #42
rofl! bananas Feb 2013 #44
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