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In reply to the discussion: Effects of Bullying Last Into Adulthood, Study Finds [View all]magical thyme
(14,881 posts)But thank you for the thinly veiled attempt at manipulation and humiliation via oblique personal attack. Oddly, by some people's definitions, that would be defined as attempted verbal bullying, especially in light of the diversion into Pythagoras that followed. I suppose I could reply with a comment about your writing skills and reading comprehension, but that would be equally rude and wouldn't solve the disconnect here.
In any event, no need to apologize. My very low normal bp (100/60, bottom of normal range; thank you for asking) remained very low. In fact, you gave me a chuckle.
We are at "cross-posts" at this point; that is, I replied to 2 of your posts, after which you replied to 2 of mine. For convenience sake, I will reply to both of your replies here, albeit not in any particular order.
First, I asked for a reference because you have repeated defined bullying without qualifiers to clarify that it is your opinion, and with qualifiers that suggest your definition is a fact.
Second, I do *not* believe there is any one definition of bullying. That is the essence of both my replies to your posts. Note that the wiki quote I posted specifically does *not* define bullying; it states that bullying is hard to define and follows with a general description of common characteristics of bullying.
Third: lawyers presumably know the law. Btw, if you are citing a legal definition of bullying, that would be a useful qualifier.
Fourth: "I'm guessing that math isn't your forte, though."
Another attempted barb that missed the mark. You are guessing wrong. As it happens, I was an honors math student in jr. high, but changed directions in high school to psychology and fine arts. My 1st bachelors degree was in fine arts. Several decades later I returned to college for a medical science degree, completing pre-med level statistics with roughly a 98% average and pre-med level chemistry (mostly applied mathematics, and some physics) with roughly 100% average. My only grades that were less than "A" were in writing and literature (B+ and A- respectively); embarrassing since I made a very good living as a writer for nearly 2 decades. Despite those 2 "low" grades, in a program that was otherwise all applied mathematics and pre-med level and clinical sciences that incorporated applied mathematics, I graduated summa cum laude.
Now, the crux of my replies to your posts:
I am referring to word choices and specific qualifiers that you use. In only one post do you go on to qualify that definition as your personal opinion. Elsewhere, you claim that others are wrong for their opinions and you use qualifiers that suggest your definition is fact.
If you are going to claim something as fact, be prepared to cite a source for that fact. If you do not mean to claim something as fact, you may want to reconsider your wording and use qualifiers. A simple "imo" would clarify.
Here are examples of where you appear to claim your definition of bullying as fact, versus personal opinion:
"Sorry, that's not bullying.
Bullying are actions in childhood that are considered criminal when you're an adult, usually threats, physical assault, and extortion. Criticizing what people say, even emphatically, even in separate threads, isn't bullying. Unless their posts threaten someone, your family, defame your professional or private reputations, or your livelihood, it isn't bullying. On this site, that includes bringing private lives up for ridicule. In other words, if there are no consequence outside the cyberworld (and I'm not talking about emotional ones,) it's not bullying."
(80+ words to define bullying, what is is and what it is not. Only 3 words -- by my definition -- buried in the last paragraph state this is your personal opinion. And that is the *only* time you qualified it as personal opinion, in what is a very long and tangled thread.)
"People who think verbal exchanges compare to bullying have never been knocked out on a school yard before."
"Therefore, you're wrong. It's extremely different than the school yard, and you just never thought of the many ways before.
It isn't bullying."
(Someone is wrong because they define bullying differently than you -- that suggests a statement of fact, not a disagreement of opinion. More definition of what is/isn't bullying, without a qualifier.)
"Please remember: bullying is behavior in children that we would call criminal in adults. Things like threats, assault and extortion. It's not simple name-calling." (Again, a qualifier that suggests your definition is fact, instead of a more appropriate qualifier that what follows is opinion.)