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15. we also need to tell the state senate and state party leadership that this is unacceptable

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:02 PM

Jan 2012

as great as it is that most Democrats voted for this, parties have a neat trick they do called ''hold and release.''

If they need something to pass, but it would hurt some rep with their constituents, they might ''release'' the reps who need to be released once they've rounded up enough other votes.

That could also happen when they DON'T want legislation to pass, but want it to look like ''Gosh darn it, we sure TRIED,'' then they ''release'' the reps least likely to be harmed by voting against it (think Joe Lieberman and the US Senate).

This is unacceptable.

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SB 810 (Single Payer Healthcare) Killed on the California Senate Floor [View all] yurbud Jan 2012 OP

how much $$ did the abstain/no voters get from the health rip off insurance industries? lots I bet n msongs Jan 2012 #1

That's a good question ... aggiesal Jan 2012 #5

Vargas is also a former insurance industry exec, a total shill. Liberty Belle Feb 2012 #30

maplight figures... Sea star Jan 2012 #6

Therein lies the tale. Cleita Jan 2012 #7

This a valuable info , thanks for posting 2banon Jan 2012 #20

people should go to Sacramento and chant SHAME at them when they report to work. alp227 Feb 2012 #28

They should do more than that. Organize and get them OUT of office! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #37

primary challenges... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #52

yes there's the answer Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2012 #45

I'm in for a little punishment. Cleita Jan 2012 #2

Better to Occupy their offices in Sacramento and .... Sea star Jan 2012 #9

Well, I can't take off to go to Sacramento in a meaningful way and I think Cleita Jan 2012 #11

sounds good. at minimum, we should demand no party $$$ go to them yurbud Jan 2012 #12

I'm with ya..and i agree 2banon Jan 2012 #21

Those ASS HOLES!!! Plucketeer Jan 2012 #3

Dah debbil made em do it. Cleita Jan 2012 #4

Now I feel foolish for having held out hope for this CrawlingChaos Jan 2012 #8

Okay for today, but then tomorrow... Sea star Jan 2012 #10

these guys go back to their district every friday yurbud Jan 2012 #13

I hope those who live in their districts and voted for them do that. n/t Cleita Jan 2012 #14

I'm with you... Sea star Jan 2012 #16

we also need to tell the state senate and state party leadership that this is unacceptable yurbud Jan 2012 #15

I was thinking that's what has happened and the players.... Sea star Jan 2012 #17

The state party apparatus is also unacceptable 2banon Feb 2012 #23

Replace Corporate DINOs with true Democrats SHRED Jan 2012 #18

thanks dems! frylock Jan 2012 #19

These tools have the blood of dead uninsured Californians on their hands! SunSeeker Feb 2012 #22

A poster up above posted about 'hold and release'.... Sea star Feb 2012 #25

Someone should start a movement to send photos of dead unnsured people to these legisHaters. Liberty Belle Feb 2012 #27

I should send them a picture of my brother in Los Angeles... SunSeeker Feb 2012 #29

Do it! Please, for everyone who is uninsured. Liberty Belle Feb 2012 #31

Rube Goldberg. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #35

...makes me nuts. SoapBox Feb 2012 #24

Socialized Medicine or Every man for himself! CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #33

Vargas may lose the party's endorsement over this. Liberty Belle Feb 2012 #26

shit, he was an INSURANCE EXEC? How was he able to run as a Dem in the first place? yurbud Feb 2012 #32

We should take them out in the primaries. Firebrand Gary Feb 2012 #34

What a shame. YogiB Feb 2012 #36

Dems who voted no or who abstained should be ashamed of themselves! red dog 1 Feb 2012 #38

The fix was in Chewiedog Feb 2012 #39

sort of like Obama's limp push for the public option yurbud Feb 2012 #40

I can't add anything but my agreement. senseandsensibility Feb 2012 #41

Hitting the Nail on the Head freethinker68 Feb 2012 #42

Government isn't the Mafia. One is legal and the other has always been illegal. Cleita Feb 2012 #43

at this point, terms like ''treason'' aren't helpful. We need to talk in terms of how to get from yurbud Feb 2012 #47

It's not my method. We have to take over from the inside and Cleita Feb 2012 #49

I was so despondent about this I was trying to look for a way to put a bow on the turd yurbud Feb 2012 #48

Just wondering, but Johnson20 Feb 2012 #44

The bill has been all the way through the process twice, and the authors did their homework. yurbud Feb 2012 #46

Thank you. Johnson20 Feb 2012 #50

This is my letter to CA Dem leaders demanding an explanation and how they'll improve yurbud Feb 2012 #51