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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
9. The current system
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:10 PM
Feb 2013

uses young people in their teens or barely out of them. These people are easily deceived, have little understanding of their own mortality, are still conditioned to obey adults with little question. I submit that you cannot have fully understand what you are getting yourself into when you "join the army/navy/marines/air force" at that age because you have yet to learn how much people lie, how they use other people for their own ends, and how war is not a "black & white" thing where we are automatically the good guys.

Most people do not become politically aware until the reach their 30s/40s and thus have little political say about acting as pawns for old men's schemes. People 35-65 have a MUCH greater appreciation for their own skin, are far less trusting of following people blindly, have a better sense of right and wrong, and when they vote are likely to be damned unhappy with politicians who lie them into wars.

The people who routinely vote for war-mongering, jingoistic politicians generally have no skin in the game. Once its is THEIR ass getting shot at, especially when politicians can be pulled out of office and dropped into a combat zone, there will be a far greater desire to settle disputes diplomatically rather than militarily. When you have CEOs of defense contractors on the receiving end of their own products, it will give them greater perspective about their future product planning.

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Seems incredibly short-sighted to me... hlthe2b Feb 2013 #1
Bring Back The Draft and We Will Have Less Wars AverageMe Feb 2013 #4
+ 10 James48 Feb 2013 #6
As I recall, the draft colorado_ufo Feb 2013 #10
DING DING DING DING DING DING !!!!!!!! groundloop Feb 2013 #13
Both wars had overwhelming support among the American population happyslug Feb 2013 #14
Bring back the Draft with no deferments and every war will require a declaration of war AverageMe Feb 2013 #21
I don't know about that... Old Troop Feb 2013 #63
Thats Charlie Rangel's argument. iandhr Feb 2013 #12
Or how about requiring military service to be eligible for Presidency or Congress? n/t alp227 Feb 2013 #15
Qualifications for Congress and Presidency are Set in the Constitution AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #18
That rule would have stopped FDR's presidential bid JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2013 #24
FDR was assistant Secretary of the Navy in WW I. former9thward Feb 2013 #44
And Both Clintons AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #45
No. It won't. It never has. And if you think Congress will pass a fair law to not give exemptions to uppityperson Feb 2013 #19
Quite true. Today, war is out of sight out of mind for most. Some might take a quick glance at RKP5637 Feb 2013 #30
Does that end justify the means? As an undraftable older person, the idea of a draft as pampango Feb 2013 #32
+1000, just make sure the rich must sign up, too wordpix Feb 2013 #35
Make it for kids of lawmakers only, and we'll have no wars at all. sofa king Feb 2013 #39
The draft never left Fearless Feb 2013 #43
There would be so few people actually drafted hack89 Feb 2013 #55
I think the social security database is the registration. It knows ones age, gender and in most Purveyor Feb 2013 #2
I would like to see a return of the draft, but with the following caveat Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #3
Just curious... KansDem Feb 2013 #5
What would a 65 yr old be able to do really? Heck my husband is retired from the military southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #7
Good choice James48 Feb 2013 #8
The current system Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #9
Many Would Drop Dead During Basic Training AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #17
There or the battlefield Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #20
Heart Attacks Would Claim More Lives than Enemy Fire AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #22
And how long do you think politicians would stay in office Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #34
The Politicians Who Vote for a Draft Would be Voted Out Immedidately AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #40
Drafting people Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #42
Starve the Beast AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #49
Then our corpoarte masters will simply arrange another war Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #58
How much more do you want to spend to expand the military? hack89 Feb 2013 #54
Three answers, Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #57
ok. nt hack89 Feb 2013 #60
Exactly, exceptionally well said. If, this were the case I think one would see the RKP5637 Feb 2013 #31
People with jobs, families, and Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #33
I've had war mongering republicans tell me the draft is a bad idea, requiring RKP5637 Feb 2013 #37
yes because slavery is a good thing! bowens43 Feb 2013 #53
And being a wage slave is better? Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #59
Immeasurably Better AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #62
Good on them ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #11
Shut It Down AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #16
I agree, no bodies, no wars Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #36
This dept of 130 staff could be easily combined with VOTER registration and save states billions. Sunlei Feb 2013 #23
There's no draft in Canada, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, the UK, Sweden, pampango Feb 2013 #25
Here in South Korea men have to serve about 2 years davidpdx Feb 2013 #56
I think two years of NON military service would be great along with free college graham4anything Feb 2013 #26
edit to add-this could also be a way for immigration change-instant citizenship after 2 yrs. graham4anything Feb 2013 #27
I would prefer a 1-year term but I like the idea. The length of service could be worked out. n/t pampango Feb 2013 #28
Yup. graham4anything Feb 2013 #29
Conscription is Anti-Labor AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #41
I don't get this logic at all graham4anything Feb 2013 #50
They Wouldn't Really be Different Jobs AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #61
It's an idea and, for the record, Heywood J Feb 2013 #46
How Do You Know Who is Giving Back What and Where? AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #48
maybe that is too harsh but graham4anything Feb 2013 #51
Sure they do madokie Feb 2013 #38
If the Press Gang is revived Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #47
These men are heros..... the draft was nothing less then legalized slavery. bowens43 Feb 2013 #52
Hell yes, bring backthe draft.... 4bucksagallon Feb 2013 #64
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