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greiner3

(5,214 posts)
36. Weather is what't outside;
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 09:59 AM
Feb 2012

Climate is weather/time. In other words, climate is the process over which weather trends as shown by graphs and models with time as an x-axis and temps as the y-axis. This is overlaid with the atmospheric CO2 used as the y-axis. The resultant is the hockey stick model that has become so famous/infamous in the media. Peter Sinclair's excellent YouTube video series; http://www.youtube.com/user/greenman3610 explains it so much better than I can do with these few paragraphs.

The world is indeed seeing a trend in climate toward approaching chaos. The high temps, the shift in rainfall patterns, the increased strengths of weather related storms is increasing and the warming world's temps are melting nearly all the ice/snow that's locked up in glaciers and the poles.

Most of the public has no problem with this pattern. It's the energy cartel that is pushing the anti anthropogenic model and causing the under-informed to doubt good science. Even when most of America's people come to realize this is indeed a fact, the politicians' contributions coming from the energy cartel will still favor not adhering to what science has given it's nearly universal approval to and not be enough to allow for effective measures to be taken; in time.

I for one believe (my college major was ecology. I sat through one of the IPCC lectures and it scared the hell out of me. This was without the effects of the melting and the subsequent release of stored methane of the world's tundra being taken into account. The lecturer said this was proposed by the researchers within IPCC but there was so little science being done with the melting of the tundra's methane that they could not, without an accurate model what this release of methane would realistically do they could not, in the end, include it in their release of findings.

The IPCC lecturer said that using a best 'guess' scenario would add 3-5 degrees Celsius, 5-8 degrees Fahrenheit for those not growing up in President Carter's losing attempt to try and get the American public to at least try and learn the system used by most of the rest of the world.) that the next few decades will be the tipping point. We still have time to avert the worst scenario. If all the world's burning of fossil fuels would end today there would still be the rising of temps of 2-3 degrees Celsius and cause oceans to rise the meter or so by 2100. However, after this time frame the continue adding of carbon to the carbon cycle will be just too much and...

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Nice day. But its still winter in Michigan. We don't take it too seriously. MichiganVote Jan 2012 #1
Here On Ohio's Eastern Shore thatgemguy Jan 2012 #2
And Europe is in an unusual deep freeze liberal N proud Jan 2012 #3
No, this is normal for this time of year here DFW Feb 2012 #25
Keep warm liberal N proud Feb 2012 #33
Winter has been cancelled in Kansas City. tridim Jan 2012 #4
Send some this way! DFW Feb 2012 #26
If the Groundhog sees his shadow on Thursday AnnieBW Jan 2012 #5
Saw a groundhog road kill yesterday n/t doc03 Jan 2012 #8
already out of their holes! not waiting for 2/2 lunasun Jan 2012 #12
We had about 4-5 inches of snow melt in less than 2 days htuttle Jan 2012 #6
Was 61º here in Ohio, went to the range doc03 Jan 2012 #7
My husband and I were able to take out our road bikes... a la izquierda Feb 2012 #34
Mmmm its unusual weather to be sure but its happened before, just check cstanleytech Jan 2012 #9
There have been similar extremes in the past. freedom fighter jh Jan 2012 #13
Perhaps you meant that 2nd part of the reply for someone else, if not then cstanleytech Jan 2012 #17
I am not a historian, but I sure can't remember a sustained rurallib Jan 2012 #16
It is in the mid-60s here in North Georgia RebelOne Jan 2012 #10
Yup same here, makes me worry that we are for an even worse summer than usual. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #18
The early spring trees and flowers are in full bloom here- 6 weeks early. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #11
Sssshhh. You hush now and don't scare anybody up with that fucking climate change gibberish. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #14
Who said anything about...cc? Found in Yonkers Feb 2012 #31
And yet, Arctic Dave is freezing his gibblet bearings off in one of the crappiest Januaries he can Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #15
I hate you sir!!! cstanleytech Jan 2012 #19
Well at least the Arctic remains cold - TBF Feb 2012 #35
Right around the same time last year...... AverageJoe90 Feb 2012 #38
We lived in Dallas the winter of 2003 - TBF Feb 2012 #41
I would caution against using one particular warm winter as evidence of climate change fujiyama Jan 2012 #20
Agree 100% on everything you said. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #23
As is explained by Dr. Heidi Cullen of the Weather channel: jimlup Feb 2012 #21
Is this El Nina? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2012 #22
La Nina, actually, and yes, it is. JayhawkSD Feb 2012 #24
I am in Northern Illinois. murielm99 Feb 2012 #27
I'm not a denier, but in all truth, you can't judge by one year. caseymoz Feb 2012 #28
I am really dreading this coming spring. AngryOldDem Feb 2012 #29
I have a bad feeling it might be. nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2012 #39
Its cold which triggers daffodils to germinate dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #30
I hate to see our bug population after such a mild winter. fasttense Feb 2012 #32
Weather is what't outside; greiner3 Feb 2012 #36
We've got jonquils up madokie Feb 2012 #37
The climate is completely messed up. YogiB Feb 2012 #40
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