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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
31. I am in almost complete agreement with all you have said here
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:59 PM
Feb 2013

however, I will address your last graf.

Here is my source for the Canadian friendly fire incident:

According to an incident report filed by the U.S. military unit, 205TH RCAG (Regional Corps Advisory Group), four Canadian soldiers were killed and seven others and an interpreter were wounded on Sept. 3, 2006, when a jet dropped a bomb on a building they occupied during the second day of Operation MEDUSA.

The Canadian military reported at the time that the four soldiers died in battles with Taliban forces.

The military's Maple Leaf newsletter also said on Sept. 13, 2006, that "four soldiers were killed September 3 during Operation MEDUSA, a significant combined effort between the Afghan National Security Forces, Canada and other NATO partners in the International Security Assistance Force as they fought to drive Taliban fighters from a region west of Kandahar City."

On Monday, Michel Drapeau, a former colonel with the Canadian Forces, said the WikiLeaks document is disturbing, because it differs from the information provided by the military at the time of the soldiers' deaths.

"There's a wide discrepancy, and we need to know," Drapeau told As It Happens on Monday night. "One of the reports has to be accurate," he said.

The veracity of the WikiLeaks document hasn't been determined, and Drapeau acknowledged that the incident report could be wrong and not corrected.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/07/26/wikileak-afghanistan-canada-soldiers.html

The story goes on to state that the Canadian military stands by its account. Then the story states that one of the families agrees with the claim that it was an RPG, but doesn't tell us what the other three families thought. Also, I can find no story detailing the incident that includes photos or other forensic evidence that would support an RPG attack.

In a more honest world, talking with a government that has a reputation for honesty, I would be inclined to give the benefit of a doubt. However, the Harper government has demonstrated it can be as war-mongering and perfidious as the Bushies.

So, I just didn't invent my view out of whole cloth, I have evidence to cast doubt on the "official" story.

Other than that last jab, I enjoyed reading your views, and agree with your sentiments about the credibility of activism.

Thanks for taking the time to talk with me on the issue.

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Whistle blower has a specific meaning in US law hack89 Feb 2013 #10
... The judge, Col. Denise Lind, must decide whether to accept the guilty pleas, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #2
It's a Hail Mary, but it's all the defense has got left before facing a massive trial on msanthrope Feb 2013 #4
... The judge, Denise Lind, accepted his plea to 10 charges involving illegal possession struggle4progress Mar 2013 #33
Poor guy probably thinks it's the best deal he can get. Octafish Feb 2013 #3
But could the judge have legally allowed a whistleblower defense in light of the fact that Manning cstanleytech Feb 2013 #7
It's not a deal--the government didn't negotiate this. It's a proffer to the court by a defendant msanthrope Feb 2013 #9
How greatful the Nuremberg witnessess Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #5
Kelvin Mace Diclotican Feb 2013 #6
Solitary is torture Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #12
He has been out of solitary for nearly two years. hack89 Feb 2013 #15
Doesn't excuse the torture they put him through Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #16
Why would they want or need to abuse him once he is found guilty? hack89 Feb 2013 #17
Why do prison guards Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #19
I somehow missed the embassy cable exposing the mass-extermination camps and crematoria struggle4progress Feb 2013 #8
He provided video footage Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #11
If you want to oppose war, that would seem to me an entirely honorable position: one can take struggle4progress Feb 2013 #14
War Crimes appologists LiberalLovinLug Feb 2013 #20
The entire premise for the war in Iraq Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #21
Even very early in the game, there has been hardly anyone here at DU supporting the war, struggle4progress Feb 2013 #28
I am in almost complete agreement with all you have said here Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #31
Well, I'll drop it all now, since I think we largely agree on many issues, and it is not my object struggle4progress Feb 2013 #32
Any time a disagreement ends amicably on DU Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #36
Hey, you are in this thread too. What's your rambling nonsensical apology for this one? Ash_F Mar 2013 #41
Don't stalk me. I replied to you in the other thread: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #42
I did not stalk you, I read all front page threads. Ash_F Mar 2013 #43
You're trolling: I never supported any rape or child prostitution, nor Limbaugh's nor Fox's BS struggle4progress Mar 2013 #44
Wandering the streets of Iraq with illegal RPGs... Whats_that Feb 2013 #13
The gunship folk also misidentified camera equipment as weaponry struggle4progress Feb 2013 #18
That is not a camera... Whats_that Feb 2013 #22
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Lie with dogs and you get fleas... Whats_that Feb 2013 #25
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I still think he is a true American Patriot. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #26
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Expose governmental criminality and receive torture & a prison sentence? How lovely! rachel1 Feb 2013 #30
Give me the single best example of government criminality you think Manning exposed struggle4progress Mar 2013 #34
You know... Whats_that Mar 2013 #35
The crimes ronnie624 Mar 2013 #37
I ask for a definite specific example and you produce vague generalities struggle4progress Mar 2013 #38
I know. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #39
But it's your own hoop: you made a vague sweeping claim, and I asked for a specific example, struggle4progress Mar 2013 #40
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