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In reply to the discussion: Zimmerman Stuns Court, Waives Right to 'Stand Your Ground' Hearing in Trayvon Martin Case [View all]At the end of the day, unarmed teenager killed by racist, persistent pursuer is all we need to know. I wouldn't even call it murder two; one's more like it. How long did this surveillance last? Enough for murder one to apply. He might not have outright intended to shoot the kid at first, but he seems to have had an awfully itchy trigger finger from the outset. That's enough for intent.
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Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2013
OP
once again, yahoo, he was NOT a "neighborhood watch captain"--he was nothing more than a
niyad
Mar 2013
#1
You could probably come up with a whole line of cars like that to appeal to right wingers:
yurbud
Mar 2013
#157
please show links to this because I seem to recall that neighborhood watch said he was not one
niyad
Mar 2013
#126
I do ask your forgiveness for not realizing that you had posted that document dump in this thread,
niyad
Mar 2013
#132
not a problem. I can understand the frustration of dealing with ignorance, living as I do in
niyad
Mar 2013
#136
Iv'e never done this before. +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 !
AAO
Mar 2013
#150
If this case isnt about SYG, Zim will lose a lot of common citizen support.
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#66
IMO, this is the attorneys decision to maximize their own exposure and legal fees.
denverbill
Mar 2013
#5
Alternative view - defense doesn't want to show it's cards until there is a jury.
24601
Mar 2013
#125
Undoubtedly hoping some mean person doesn't dig up all those inconvenient posts.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#74
I can understand why GZ+family are doing it (*not* sympathize, mind you)
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#88
A certain number of the undoubtedly guilty will get away with crimes.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#100
He can't prove it. It's his opinion. You'll have to wait and see if he's right of wrong.
AAO
Mar 2013
#33
There'll be at least one bigot and/or paranoid gun nut on the jury, probably more.
Hoyt
Mar 2013
#27
Well we can speculate all day. I didn't think he'd get bail, but he did. So right now, things are
Hoyt
Mar 2013
#97
Indeed. I bet there are cases where people more deserving don't get it though. /nt
Ash_F
Mar 2013
#109
That was my first thought too. If it was struck down in a hearing, he definitely loses the trial.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#155
I'm hoping I'm wrong but I have a bad feeling he's going to beat this charge
Coolest Ranger
Mar 2013
#12
Just going to use a self-defense strategy. He claims Trayvon attacked him first.
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2013
#13
Neither does Jodi Arias' make any sense and she's claiming self-defense in her
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2013
#20
It really comes down to the jury pool. Anyone know where they will pull from? /nt
Ash_F
Mar 2013
#99
I was on a jury, 2d degree murder, with self-defense as the Defense tactic
JustABozoOnThisBus
Mar 2013
#119
If he gets anything more than probation a suspended sentance and time served, I'll be very surprised
marble falls
Mar 2013
#15
Why would this 'stun the court'? His lawyer has been saying this for 6+ months.
AtheistCrusader
Mar 2013
#16
when the claim is that dad's expertise will help him put together a "near perfect defense"
onenote
Mar 2013
#34
"He will have a near-perfect defense, thanks to his father the judge, and I expect them to
onenote
Mar 2013
#47
Sounds like the Standers don't want their law challenged and made it clear to the murderer. nt
valerief
Mar 2013
#26
I agree that Zimmerman's suggestions are bullshit. But are they enough to create reasonable doubt.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#156
If he provoked the physical altercation, then self-defense should not apply.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2013
#56
I think there is a chance that gun enthusiasts might be willing to throw Zim under the bus.
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#65
Most "gun enthusiasts" here knew this wasn't a SYG case, and said so.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#79
Rewrite what? I believe they might be willing to throw him under the bus. That's all. nm
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#82
He got little to no support in most places in the first place, so what's your point?
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#90
You may very well be correct, as I try to avoid RW sites for the most part.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#93