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magical thyme

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25. just because you fail to implement a plan, does not mean that was not the plan

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:39 AM

Mar 2013

"Tearing Afghanistan up didn't really help us get their minerals, and fucking up Iraq severely lowered oil production there. "

The PNAC neocon pipedream outlined on their website was to take over the oil rich nations for the purpose of controlling the oil and establishing the US military dominance of the world.

That their plan was a dismal failure was due to it's being dreamed up and executed by a bunch of chickenhawk, armchair warriors with zero real world experience in actually doing anything that involves actual work.

They really, truly did believe their own bs that the oil would pay for the war and then some.

Afghanistan was wanted for the pipeline that runs from an oil or energy-rich country to its north (I think Uzbekistan) through Afghanistan, to get its oil to the sea. Same reason the Soviets invaded back in the 80s.

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