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Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
158. You identify with "any thinking person"? Probably not, of course.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:30 PM
Mar 2013

She, as with other DU'ers, is fully aware of Globo's part in the filthy coup of the Venezuelan President.

You are betting on the hope she is simply on budgeted time, the way most of us are, and doesn't really have all day to plunge into collecting links for you to review and evaluate, as if surveying a tray of offered pastries for your snacking pleasure.


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Globovisión vs democracy

Since 1998, Globovisión has relentlessly opposed the democratic government of Hugo Chavez. In April of 2002, the broadcast network actively participated in the coup d’état by Pedro Carmona Estanga. In any other country in the world, Globovisión would have been closed and its leaders sentenced to long prison sentences. But the Supreme Court, controlled at that time by the opposition, refused to recognize the coup and explained the overthrow as merely a “power vacuum.”

Since then, the channel has multiplied its calls to insurrection. [3] In May of 2007, Globovisión encouraged the murder of President Chavez by manipulating images and sending subliminal messages. On the program "Aló, Ciudadano", Marcel Granier, the director of another channel that strongly criticizes Chavez, RCTV, was interviewed while simultaneously displaying images of the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in May 1981. Globovisión could not explain why it broadcast images of the attempted assassination during a program dealing with the non-renewal of RCTV’s license. [4] Several semiotic experts were categorical about the incident: “It urged the murder of the President.” [5] In France, such actions would have resulted in the incarceration of the reporters as well as the company’s owners.

Globovisión’s journalists and newscasters also amplified their defamatory rhetoric towards the government using words like “dictatorship” and “tyranny” to justify calls for civic disobedience and acts of violence, something that would be unimaginable in the West. [6]

http://www.voltairenet.org/article160744.html

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HOW HATE MEDIA INCITED THE COUP AGAINST THE PRESIDENT

Venezuela’s press power

Never even in Latin American history has the media been so directly involved in a political coup. Venezuela’s ’hate media’ controls 95% of the airwaves and has a near-monopoly over newsprint, and it played a major part in the failed attempt to overthrow the president, Hugo Chávez, in April. Although tensions in the country could easily spill into civil war, the media is still directly encouraging dissident elements to overthrow the democratically elected president - if necessary by force.

by Maurice Lemoine

"We had a deadly weapon: the media. And now that I have the opportunity, let me congratulate you." In Caracas, on 11 April 2002, just a few hours before the temporary overthrow of Venezuela’s president, Hugo Chávez, Vice-Admiral Victor Ramírez Pérez congratulated journalist Ibéyiste Pacheco live on Venevision television. Twenty minutes earlier, when Pacheco had begun to interview a group of rebel officers, she could not resist admitting, conspiratorially, that she had long had a special relationship with them.

At the same time, in a live interview from Madrid, another journalist, Patricia Poleo, also seemed well informed about the likely future development of "spontaneous events". She announced on the Spanish channel TVE: "I believe the next president is going to be Pedro Carmona." Chávez, holed up in the presidential palace, was still refusing to step down.

After Chávez came to power in 1998, the five main privately owned channels - Venevisión, Radio Caracas Televisión (RCTV), Globovisión and CMT - and nine of the 10 major national newspapers, including El Universal, El Nacional, Tal Cual, El Impulso, El Nuevo País, and El Mundo, have taken over the role of the traditional political parties, which were damaged by the president’s electoral victories. Their monopoly on information has put them in a strong position. They give the opposition support, only rarely reporting government statements and never mentioning its large majority, despite that majority’s confirmation at the ballot box. They have always described the working class districts as a red zone inhabited by dangerous classes of ignorant people and delinquents. No doubt considering them unphotogenic, they ignore working class leaders and organisations.

Their investigations, interviews and commentaries all pursue the same objective: to undermine the legitimacy of the government and to destroy the president’s popular support. "In aesthetic terms, this revolutionary government is a cesspit," was the delicate phrase used by the evening paper Tal Cual. Its editor, Teodoro Petkoff, is a keen opponent of Chávez. Petkoff is a former Marxist guerrilla who became a neo-liberal and a pro-privatisation minister in the government of rightwing president Rafael Caldera. The Chávez government is not, of course, above criticism. It makes mistakes, and the civilian and military personnel who surround it are tainted by corruption. But the government was democratically elected and still has the backing of the majority. It can also be credited with successes, nationally and internationally.

http://mondediplo.com/2002/08/10venezuela

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Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 05:39 PM PST.

The Myth that Hugo Chávez Controls Venezuela’s Media

There's a reason why Americans believe that Chávez controls the Venezuelan media; all the American media continuously publishes stories about media suppression undertaken by the Chávez government. (For examples, see here, here, and here.) These stories are not false in the sense that they describe events which actually happened (i.e. Chávez has taken action against anti-Chávez network RCTV). But they are very misleading.

Let's take a look at television. Venezuelan television is dominated by four networks: Venevisión, Televen, Globovisión, and Venezolana de Televisión (VTV). Of these four networks, Venevisión and Televen are moderately anti-Chávez, Globovisión is extremely anti-Chávez, and VTV is extremely pro-Chávez. Venevisión and Televen hold 60% of the TV audience in Venezuela. VTV appears to hold only 6% of Venezuelans.

~snip~
Indeed, it seems that the Venezuelan media played a major role in supporting the failed 2002 coup d'état against Chávez. Coup plotters collaborated with Venezuelan media figures before the coup. The media refused to show statements by officials condemning the coup d'état. When the coup d'état failed, the private Venezuelan networks refused to broadcast the news that Chávez had returned to power.

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But one's personal dislike of Hugo Chávez has nothing to do with the bias of Venezuela's media. It's fair to say that, on balance, Venezuela's media is biased against Hugo Chávez. Unfortunately, too many journalists writing in too many American media sources have let their dislike of Chávez blind them to the truth. This has left too many intelligent Americans badly misinformed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/29/1174713/-The-Myth-that-Hugo-Ch-vez-Controls-Venezuela-s-Media

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Wikileaks Cables Reveal U.S. Embassy Works with Venezuelan Private Media
By Tamara Pearson - Venezuelanalysis.com

Mérida, September 6th 2011 (Venezuelanalysis.com) – The U.S. ambassador to Venezuela, Patrick Duddy, met with Venezuelan private media companies El Nacional, Globovision, and the Cisneros Group, to discuss their political content with them and El Nacional asked the U.S embassy for funding, according to cables written by the U.S embassy in Caracas and published by Wikileaks.

Duddy met with the 2002 coup supporting channel, Globovision, and with private newspaper El Nacional on 17 and 19 February 2010, and documented the meeting in a cable written that month and released by Wikileaks on 30 August 2011, classified as secret and titled, “Globovision Owners Acknowledge Defeat: El Nacional on the Ropes?”

El Nacional told the embassy that it had allegedly lost “advertising revenue from companies that had either been nationalised or been threatened by the (Venezuelan government)” and asked “the Ambassador whether the U.S. could provide (it with financial) assistance.” The newspaper said it was reaching “the end of its financial rope” and predicted that it could be out of business by April of that year (2010).

The El Nacional representative (whose name is blacked out) said El Universal had also lost advertising revenues, “over 14%, with the recent nationalisation of Exito (supermarket chain)”.

The U.S embassy cable reads, “To keep El Nacional alive, XXXXXXXXXXXX asked the Ambassador whether the Embassy knew of services of private financing they could approach outside the country, or failing that, if the USG [U.S. government] could be persuaded to help.”

El Nacional currently still circulates on a daily basis.

A Globovision representative, their name also blacked out in the cable, alleged that Venezuelan government officials had pressured them to “tone down Globovision's strongly anti-Chavez orientation” and talked about “buying time” until the National Assembly elections (which took place in September last year), saying “If Chavez wins, we are all gone.” The pro-Chavez party, the United Socialist Party of Venezuela, did win a majority in those elections, and Globovision remains fully on air.

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/6469

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During the coup in April 2002 almost all of Venezuela’s private media actively participated in overthrowing the democratically elected Chávez. This included manipulating footage to make it appear as though Chávez supporters were responsible for the killing of innocent civilians, and airing cartoons rather than covering the mass mobilization that brought Chávez back to power. In fact, the day after the coup on the opposition station Venevision, a number of coup supporters appeared, with one explicitly thanking the media, including Globovision and other private stations for their role in overthrowing Chávez (footage of which is included in “South of the Border”.)

Globovision is frequently referred to as the last independent television station that is critical of Chávez and, though the LA Times doesn’t state this explicitly, it does leave the reader with the sense that Globovision is the last remaining independent station. However, there are a number of other independent stations both local and national and these account for a much larger share of the overall market than the country’s state owned television and radio. Nationally there is Venevisión and Televen, for example.

http://southoftheborderdoc.com/la-times-accurately-describes-venezuelan-tv-station-as-obviously-slanted-with-no-pretense-of-impartiality/

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Venezuela's Media Coup
By Naomi Klein - February 13th, 2003

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Venezuela's private television stations are owned by wealthy families with serious financial stakes in defeating Chavez. Venevision, the most-watched network, is owned by Gustavo Cisneros, a mogul dubbed the "joint venture king" by the New York Post. The Cisneros Group has partnered with many top US brands-from AOL and Coca-Cola to Pizza Hut and Playboy-becoming a gatekeeper to the Latin American market. Cisneros is also a tireless proselytizer for continental free trade, telling the world, as he did in a 1999 profile in LatinCEO magazine, that "Latin America is now fully committed to free trade, and fully committed to globalization.?? As a continent it has made a choice." But with Latin American voters choosing politicians like Chavez, that has been looking like false advertising, selling a consensus that doesn't exist.

All of this helps explain why, in the days leading up to the April coup, Venevision, RCTV, Globovision and Televen replaced regular programming with relentless anti-Chavez speeches, interrupted only for commercials calling on viewers to take to the streets: "Not one step backwards. Out! Leave Now!" The ads were sponsored by the oilindustry, but the stations carried them free, as "public service announcements."

They went further: On the night of the coup, Cisneros' station played host to meetings among the plotters, including Carmona. The president of Venezuela's broadcasting chamber co-signed the decree dissolving the elected National Assembly. And while the stations openly rejoiced at news of Chavez's "resignation," when pro-Chavez forces mobilized for his return a total news blackout was imposed.

Izarra says he received clear instructions: "No information on Chavez, his followers, his ministers, and all others that could in any way be related to him." He watched with horror as his bosses actively suppressed breaking news. Izarra says that on the day of the coup, RCTV had a report from a US affiliate that Chavez had not resigned, but had been kidnapped and jailed. It didn't make the news. Mexico, Argentina, and France condemned the coup and refused to recognize the new government. RCTV knew but didn't tell.

http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2003/02/venezuelas-media-coup

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He was loved. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #1
So was Kim Il Sung Ter Mar 2013 #141
Go piss in another thread. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #144
Through the lens of the US media, "Poor people loved him because he spent shcrane71 Mar 2013 #2
+1 JustAnotherGen Mar 2013 #76
Not just a noble endeavor, bvar22 Mar 2013 #80
+1,000,000 shcrane71 Mar 2013 #137
Somewhere there you just know the CIA is busy ..n kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #134
Public funeral for Venezuela's Chavez to be held Friday Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #3
Wonder how the US will be represented at the funeral No Vested Interest Mar 2013 #10
I thought on TRMS she said they kicked the US Ambassador out of the country? xtraxritical Mar 2013 #14
No, not the ambassador No Vested Interest Mar 2013 #15
Someone needs to keep on eye on bushitler, he'll be over there spreading sulfur and hunting lonestarnot Mar 2013 #20
Adios, amigo Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #4
RIP, amigo. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #5
As they should. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #6
K&R. I will miss him too. Overseas Mar 2013 #7
Hugo Chavez, RIP Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #8
Wonderful choice of images. Thank you, so much. Perfect. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #18
You're most welcome..so sorry he is gone..too young. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #88
I hope the military is on guard for provocations. David__77 Mar 2013 #9
Yes our President thinks he can now "talk" {strongarm} MyNameGoesHere Mar 2013 #13
"Strongarm"? WTF would this president want to do that? Venezuela isn't going to be Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #128
Yes our President wasn't worried about all that. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2013 #136
I guess "worse" would be subjective, depending on one's politics. But, your idea of "strange"..... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #157
Such a "blip" the U.S. participated in creating the coup in 2002, has poured out millions Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #159
Not sure why you felt the need to come after me, rather than the poster who declares that our.... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #160
Please do include a link to your information on Hugo Chavez' immense wealth. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #165
Look up yesterday's Diahn Rhem Show. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #169
No, you are expected to provide the link, pull it out of your underside. Your responsibility. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #170
I said where I heard it, my "responsibility" ends there. For anyone, besides you, looking for... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #171
yes a blip Steerpike Mar 2013 #161
And with no real capacity to refine it. Do some research. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #164
Hey TM Steerpike Mar 2013 #173
Of course he was interested. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2013 #172
"shameless and criminal behavior". Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #177
He announces he supports the people. The people chose Hugo Chavez! Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #130
But, but, the TV said he wasn't the president of Venezuela, he was the "strongman" arcane1 Mar 2013 #11
They take the terms propagandists throw them, and brandish them gleefully, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #17
A Good Man Gone, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2013 #12
Indeed, Magistrate. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #16
But not soon forgotten, Sir. bemildred Mar 2013 #56
Courage and peace to the people of Venezuela in their time of loss. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #19
Good riddance Fearless Mar 2013 #21
Which constitution are you referring to? n/t ronnie624 Mar 2013 #35
Theirs. Fearless Mar 2013 #41
As a "constitutionalist", ronnie624 Mar 2013 #59
I didn't say he violated it Fearless Mar 2013 #60
He was not the only person involved in creating the current constitution. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #62
Sad, in every way. Wish they bothered to search for the facts, as the rest of us do. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #63
Sometimes it really gives me the red ass. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #66
Would you have been ok if President Bush, after 9-11 Fearless Mar 2013 #68
I favor democracy. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #69
So you would be against political manipulation Fearless Mar 2013 #70
Politics is all *about* manipulation. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #71
To quote George Washington in his farewell address regarding political parties... Fearless Mar 2013 #74
You're leaving out the most important element, perhaps to deliberately misinform: ronnie624 Mar 2013 #75
Except that from the view of a constitutionalist Fearless Mar 2013 #82
And we circle back to the original false claim. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #84
It was changed for personal gain. Fearless Mar 2013 #85
well you don't favor Chavez, then---he was a dictator wordpix Mar 2013 #98
Ok ronnie whatever you say. Fearless Mar 2013 #67
amazing rationalization, isn't it? BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #79
The Venezuelan constitution was ratified by a popular vote. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #86
You are missing my point Fearless Mar 2013 #94
The Venezuelan peoples' approval of a new constitution ronnie624 Mar 2013 #147
see the link BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #104
So explain what you meant then. bitchkitty Mar 2013 #91
I did explain myself. Please be civil. Fearless Mar 2013 #93
Be civil? When you make a post that says "good riddance"? bitchkitty Mar 2013 #106
One need not know more about someone who chooses that stinking send-off to a dead man. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #108
I didn't say be courteous I said we should be civil. Fearless Mar 2013 #113
What Is Really Bothering You About Chavez? HangOnKids Mar 2013 #121
I will gladly go off on leaders who subvert the intentions of their consitutions Fearless Mar 2013 #122
+1000. I don't always agree with you, but I give you big props for consistency. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #178
Lisewise! n/t Fearless Mar 2013 #179
probably the one Chavez changed to keep himself in office forever wordpix Mar 2013 #110
That would only be possible if they RE-ELECTED him, wouldn't it? Like President FDR was re-elected Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #112
If you terrorize your opponents Fearless Mar 2013 #115
You could benefit by spending some time researching your subject, as the rest of us must. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #118
Likewise. Fearless Mar 2013 #119
I know a family that was terrorized and fled. I know them personally. Is that enough research for wordpix Mar 2013 #135
DU'ers know an American DU'er who lives now in Venezuela whom we have enjoyed enormously Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #138
good try- my friends fled for their lives b/c the head of household practiced free speech wordpix Mar 2013 #142
Bullshit. n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #174
Wait until the funeral. The whole nation will be out. Coyotl Mar 2013 #22
Close to tears right now. There aren't enough socialist leaders in the world. McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #23
He was a loud mouth thug n/t City67 Mar 2013 #24
Stay classy. daleo Mar 2013 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author bitchkitty Mar 2013 #26
Right back at 'ya ReRe Mar 2013 #42
choose your battles wisely olddots Mar 2013 #61
Curious that you'd come out of a five-year hibernation to post that. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #129
According to this article in the Washington Post, Chavez was far from a democrat. totodeinhere Mar 2013 #27
dicktater, dicktater, derp derp derp. bitchkitty Mar 2013 #28
What about the substance of the article? totodeinhere Mar 2013 #53
No! The Washington Post? Really? JackRiddler Mar 2013 #29
Yes, the same newspaper that endorsed Barack Obama twice. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2013 #52
By which the Post means, of course "he wouldn't obey Wall Street and impose austerity". Ken Burch Mar 2013 #31
I love how the corporate media gives a shit about Human Rights Watch when it comes to Chavez Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #33
Huh? naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #47
So in answering Adenoid_Hynkel's comment... JackRiddler Mar 2013 #72
ok fair enough. nt. naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #111
We should give a shit about all human rights abuses anywhere including Saudi Arabia. totodeinhere Mar 2013 #54
Robert Gibbs is on MSNBC trashing Chavez aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2013 #64
They started early in the morning slashing away at him on MSNBC. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #65
Poppycock RZM Mar 2013 #124
I agree. Almost anyone has heard of Pinochet. He is one of the most well known dictators in totodeinhere Mar 2013 #131
Of course, you're right. The average citizen has never heard of Pinochet, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #127
Yeah JustAnotherGen Mar 2013 #77
here come the pro-Chavezistas to denounce this well documented report as a fraud wordpix Mar 2013 #101
Thank you Judi! JackRiddler Mar 2013 #30
On the scale of Latin American authoritarianism... Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2013 #32
Too bad. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #34
Tributes to Hugo Chávez flow from South American leaders Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #36
Wow. Just hearing this now. RIP. You made your mark. AllyCat Mar 2013 #37
Rest in Peace, Brother Laughing Mirror Mar 2013 #38
The people of Venezuela will triumph with their "New Deal" in tact... Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #39
Bottom up? Tell that to the boligarchs. joshcryer Mar 2013 #44
Not surprising you did not provide a link. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #55
Link to figure (misleading to say the least): Melinda Mar 2013 #117
Huh? I provide that source regularly. joshcryer Mar 2013 #150
Yup, bottom up! Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #145
K&R. Well said. Overseas Mar 2013 #58
Beautifully said. Thank you n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #126
Hear, hear. Nice to see you here, Peace! Thanks. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #146
Hugo Chavez 5 SamKnause Mar 2013 #40
Hear! Hear! ReRe Mar 2013 #43
Erm, they expelled two of our officers from our embassy. joshcryer Mar 2013 #45
"Bush was the devil and the Obama administration is no better. " oberliner Mar 2013 #46
We knew there would be cheap talk on this thread...eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #49
Obviously a reason to attack him with $100 million in US taxpayer dollars. JackRiddler Mar 2013 #57
On the whole, I liked him aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2013 #48
He survived a coup and lived to see Bush leave office humiliated Kolesar Mar 2013 #50
Chavez himself planned a failed coup to get rid of Pres. Carlos Perez: Operation Zamora 1992 wordpix Mar 2013 #105
Why did you neglect to acknowledge Chavez became a national hero because of his actions Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #107
uh, I wasn't around then, Judi Lynn. Why do you neglect to acknowledge Chavez is not perfect? wordpix Mar 2013 #109
Were you around to witness the coup you reference? n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #114
no, were you? Just making a point Chavez had his own (failed) coup wordpix Mar 2013 #132
He was a good leader for his country. fasttense Mar 2013 #51
RIP - he cared for the least fortunate Politicub Mar 2013 #73
I'm watching live as his remains are transferred to the Military Academy Catherina Mar 2013 #78
Another: bemildred Mar 2013 #81
Great! They have a Telesur link there, which is really nice. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #89
Yep, front row seat. bemildred Mar 2013 #96
Just saw Evo Morales is walking beside R. Maduro as they walk ahead of the car bearing the casket. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #120
Thanks n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #95
My pleasure. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #97
Thanks for posting this Globo link, Catherina. Very interesting. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #83
Thanks for the telesur link Catherina Mar 2013 #99
Oh, yeah! No surprise there. Guatemala has been beaten down by the same people since 1954, at least. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #102
Yeah but we've got "democracy" and "rule of law" Catherina Mar 2013 #125
how ironic, Chavez despised Globovision wordpix Mar 2013 #103
And with good fucking reason n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #123
a reason such as Globo criticized him is one I know of wordpix Mar 2013 #133
Excuse me, there's a HUGE chasm between criticizing and Catherina Mar 2013 #139
huh? Globovision engages in free speech, that is why Chavez hated that station wordpix Mar 2013 #143
Total waste of time. Bye n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #148
I know I know, the truth doesn't fit into your neat ideological package wordpix Mar 2013 #155
Since you don't understand what "Bye" politely meant Catherina Mar 2013 #163
where's your link with evidence that Globo "collaborated with a coup?" wordpix Mar 2013 #156
You identify with "any thinking person"? Probably not, of course. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #158
Thanks Judy. Here's a little more Catherina Mar 2013 #162
Wise choice, "ignore". It needs wide application on certain chronic trolls. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #166
This is great Catherina Mar 2013 #168
Yup. joshcryer Mar 2013 #151
Journalist beaten in Caracas for report about Chavez' death (video) Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #87
Maybe reporters from stations which advocated the coup, and assassination should stay out of it. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #90
well, she actually wasn't from Globovision or any opposition media Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #92
Let's see, hundreds of thousands in the streets to mourn Chavez. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #100
The poster is part of a small crew of people here who oppose the left in general and in Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #116
If there existed even a tiny bit of criticism we'd not waste our time. joshcryer Mar 2013 #152
Where are your many posts about corruption in Colombia? Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #154
Buried with innocent campesinos in mass graves throughout Colombia. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #167
Disgusting. joshcryer Mar 2013 #175
Why would I post about corruption in Colombia? joshcryer Mar 2013 #176
I agree broad brushing is wrong. joshcryer Mar 2013 #153
Latin American leaders begin to arrive in Caracas Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #140
A Day of Tears After Chavez Death in Venezuela Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #149
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