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28. If they don't follow the evidence

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:42 PM

Mar 2013

and let their religious beliefs or politics guide their judgment, then I would move to strike them as the defendant's lawyer. If the lawyer is truly of Jewish descent, then who would know better? Remember this is the defendant's own chosen lawyer who happens to be Jewish. And even though he is Jewish, the lawyer is defending him to the best of his ability.

I checked the Demographics of New York City. That is a very diverse City of 8 million people. The largest religion in New York City is Catholic. The African American population is larger than the Jewish and so is the Catholic. The largest group are Italians. They also have a significant Hispanic population as well as Chinese, Asians and Arabs. The Jury should reflect the jurisdiction.

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Abdel Hameed Shehadeh Trial: Lawyer Hopes To Exclude Jews From Jury In Terrorism Trial [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2013 OP

His defense lawyer is named 'Cohn'. Isn't that Jewish? SpankMe Mar 2013 #1

Apparently he is Jewish, but he has a very low opinion geek tragedy Mar 2013 #2

Could be... atreides1 Mar 2013 #34

Ding! Ding! Ding! The Stranger Mar 2013 #35

No, the law isn't even close on this point. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #36

Seems to me that the statistical odds that this JDPriestly Mar 2013 #3

Pretty sure that Jews outnumber Evangelical Christians in NYC. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #6

There's no violation of the civil rights of jurors here, but there is msanthrope Mar 2013 #4

Striking jurors due to race or religion is forbidden due to Equal Protection geek tragedy Mar 2013 #8

But it is not a violation of 'their' civil rights. It is a violation of the defendant's, ironically. msanthrope Mar 2013 #10

Actually, it is a violation of the excluded jurors' civil rights geek tragedy Mar 2013 #13

No--you are conflating peremptorys and cause strikes. Mr. Cohn is asking for cause-- msanthrope Mar 2013 #16

Categorically excluding Jews explicitly rather than sneakily geek tragedy Mar 2013 #19

But that's not quite what's happening here. 'Zionism' is not a protected class. msanthrope Mar 2013 #21

Tipped his hand too much with the constant "Jews" references. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #23

Not at all...he got exactly what he wanted. The story in all the Jewish dailies and msanthrope Mar 2013 #26

It's still a fairly bigoted assumption that Jews would be less geek tragedy Mar 2013 #29

Oh, I'm not saying it's smart trial strategy. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #31

+1 nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #33

I think the only way the lawyer John2 Mar 2013 #5

They only get so many "blank check" juror strikes. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #7

They get two or three they can let go without having to say why... Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #9

NYC is a pretty Liberal John2 Mar 2013 #12

Maybe he just The Wizard Mar 2013 #11

Wouldn't this be like excluding women from a jury for a rape trial? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #14

Or blacks from lynching trials in the Jim Crow south. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #15

Yes and no. I can strike a woman for cause if she admits she cannot render a msanthrope Mar 2013 #17

I have no problem excluding people from the jury who say that all Muslims are terrorists. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #18

Well, what this guy wants is some pre-trial publicity and some poisoning of the jury pool. msanthrope Mar 2013 #24

He said "Jews"--repeatedly. He can ask people if they can fairly judge a trial geek tragedy Mar 2013 #20

Sure he did. He also said lots about Zionism, and this is a pre-trial hearing. msanthrope Mar 2013 #22

Why? Not unheard of for lawyers to do anything to get themselves geek tragedy Mar 2013 #25

But what he's done here is poison the pool, and given more cause strikes to himself msanthrope Mar 2013 #27

The NY Post's readership is already poisoned against geek tragedy Mar 2013 #32

If they don't follow the evidence John2 Mar 2013 #28

You can ask questions about their willingness to follow the evidence geek tragedy Mar 2013 #30

How are his actions a crime against Jewish people in particular? JVS Mar 2013 #37

'Jury without Jews' denied: Anti-Semitic request by Muslim rejected by judge Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #38