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Psephos

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27. The value of fiat currency is proportional to the solvency of its issuer.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 11:55 PM
Mar 2013

The US government is bankrupt by any standard under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Which means the value of its fiat currency is zero, once the music stops.

By law, for any business, unfunded future obligations must be moved onto the balance sheet with a present cost. But GAAP doesn't apply to the Treasury or Fed. Which means there's literally no accounting for the net present value of those future must-pays in the current "budget." (Haven't had one of those in four years, either.) It's like knowing you have to put aside money for your kid's college tuition, which starts next year by the way, but then you never get around to actually doing it - AND you shout down anyone who brings it up. Which means disaster when next year rolls around.

Even all the sacred SS money has been siphoned out and spent, with nothing in its place except IOUs that can only be redeemed by issuing more debt. It's a dog chasing its own tail.

The future obligations of the government, combined with its present debt and obligatory interest payments, are so massive (between 65 and 120 trillion dollars, depending on how rosy one's economic growth projections are) that they could not be paid even if the government confiscated every asset of every person and business. All the real estate, factories, oil and gas, cash, grandma's tchotchke collection...everything, all of it.

I suggest reading outside your current list. If you are hesitant or indignant to do so, it's often a sign that you've got selection bias. Selection bias neutralizes science and history.

Start with the Zero Hedge website. The articles and especially the discussion are usually awesome and enlightening.

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Everybody save for a few perpetual whiners, thinks this is a great thing! graham4anything Mar 2013 #1
It could be a great thing if progressoid Mar 2013 #2
whining about whiners olddots Mar 2013 #5
It ain't trickling down olddots Mar 2013 #3
I feel the same. lexw Mar 2013 #7
There is no way for a rise in stock prices to trickle down, unless you have money invested in stocks slackmaster Mar 2013 #10
Well... people whose portfolios have risen are more likely to extend their homes, Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #12
I'm investing all of my capital gains in classic velvet paintings of Elvis Presley slackmaster Mar 2013 #14
Not a good sign to me, but a positive thing in that Populist_Prole Mar 2013 #4
All that freshly printed money has to go somewhere... lib2DaBone Mar 2013 #6
The "freshly printed" money quaker bill Mar 2013 #8
You're just the kind they're counting on. Psephos Mar 2013 #16
Money has not been backed with real anything for a very long time quaker bill Mar 2013 #17
The value of fiat currency is proportional to the solvency of its issuer. Psephos Mar 2013 #27
A reference to zerohedge tells me all I need to know quaker bill Mar 2013 #28
selection bias in action Psephos Mar 2013 #29
Irrational exuberance magic59 Mar 2013 #9
Shit floats. n/t DeSwiss Mar 2013 #11
I used to love seeing the stock market go up... lexw Mar 2013 #13
Whoopie! ReRe Mar 2013 #15
There are many millions of people who are invested in the stock market who are chronically... slackmaster Mar 2013 #19
"Millions" of sub-rich... ReRe Mar 2013 #20
I don't understand the basis of your snarky reply slackmaster Mar 2013 #21
I'm sorry... ReRe Mar 2013 #22
The term chronically sub-rich is a literary reference. The expression was used by the Firesign... slackmaster Mar 2013 #23
I'm so so glad you didn't blow me off... ReRe Mar 2013 #24
If you don't have a receiver with a Phono input, you'll also need a phono pre-amp. slackmaster Mar 2013 #25
The dow creeps up davidpdx Mar 2013 #18
Didn't this "W/S Surge" happen right fredamae Mar 2013 #26
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