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In reply to the discussion: Black Smoke Emerges From Sistine Chapel Chimney: No Pope On First Try [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)61. Sorry. I wasn't. My family was composed of several denominations and atheists. It was like flavor of
the month, just a choice for social reasons. I never felt oppressed by religion, despite other issues growing up.
I know a lot of recovering religious people and they are all liberals but insist on their right to choose if they will be involved in religion. They hold fast to the separation of church and state. Several religions and or philosophies stepped over that boundary for centuries.
IRL, I don't associate with people who have obsessions with religion one way or the other, so I don't have the emotion that some people do about it and don't allow them to force me into anything.
But some are screwing with MY government, and that does fire up my emotions.
I know a lot of recovering religious people and they are all liberals but insist on their right to choose if they will be involved in religion. They hold fast to the separation of church and state. Several religions and or philosophies stepped over that boundary for centuries.
IRL, I don't associate with people who have obsessions with religion one way or the other, so I don't have the emotion that some people do about it and don't allow them to force me into anything.
But some are screwing with MY government, and that does fire up my emotions.
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Black Smoke Emerges From Sistine Chapel Chimney: No Pope On First Try [View all]
Purveyor
Mar 2013
OP
Well, that was... Although I wonder how paper ballots make that much smoke? Paper burns clean, IMHO.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#47
We even missed the first half of Y&R and someone I know was really pissed! ;) eom
Purveyor
Mar 2013
#14
Most people claiming it's in an inexorable decline deny that a world exists outside the US. (nt)
Posteritatis
Mar 2013
#42
Is this unusual? I know some Catholics who think Benedict was the last Pope per prophecy.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#20
The Election of Pope Pius X in 1903 took Five votes over two days AND a veto by Austria
happyslug
Mar 2013
#52
How is the world different with a different pope? What pope changed things for the better? nt
valerief
Mar 2013
#33
Didn't different ones let up on things being in Latin to extend their knowledge to more people?
freshwest
Mar 2013
#50
Guess I just see the RCC organization as life crushers rather than life enrichers. nt
valerief
Mar 2013
#57
I have never been a member of the RCC. But that billion people affect my life and liberty.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#59
I was subjected to the RCC as a kid. I'd like to see it go away completely. nt
valerief
Mar 2013
#60
Sorry. I wasn't. My family was composed of several denominations and atheists. It was like flavor of
freshwest
Mar 2013
#61
Religion is a tool to keep people dumb. Dumb people follow authoritative leaders.
valerief
Mar 2013
#62
We knew our father was Santa Claus. No mystery there. All of my education was secular. I was never
freshwest
Mar 2013
#63
Damn, and I was expecting their call - never mind that I'm neither Roman Catholic
24601
Mar 2013
#48
I think it would be a miserable existence. Life in a fish bowl, all that ritual.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#53
Yes - but I had this vision of reversing celibacy. "The lord spoke to me last night and said
24601
Mar 2013
#55