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4. Plain Dealer: T.J. Lane sentenced to life in prison in Chardon High School shootings

Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:49 PM

Mar 2013

Geauga County Common Pleas Judge David Fuhry sentenced Lane for the slayings of Daniel Parmertor, 16; Demetrius Hewlin, 16; and Russell King Jr., 17, in a rampage that has tortured a small town and its students for the past year.

Lane sat silently as the sentence was read.

He later gave only this statement: "This hand that pulled the trigger that killed your sons now masturbates to the memory. F--- all of you."

Gasps were heard around the courtroom at that point and some in the gallery began to cry.

"You're really lucky there's so many police in this room," said Holly Walczak, mother of shooting victim Nick Walczak, who was left paralyzed, during her statement before sentencing as Lane smiled.

http://www.cleveland.com/chardon-shooting/index.ssf/2013/03/tj_lane_sentenced_in_chardon_h.html

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Ohio School Shooter TJ Lane Laughs, Gives Finger at His Sentencing [View all] Archae Mar 2013 OP

I'll bet that smile won't last long..... TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #1

that smirk has been wiped off his face RedstDem Mar 2013 #110

Nope. It's all downhill from here for that one. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #119

Odd. crim son Mar 2013 #2

I'm not so sure that he has feelings in the classical sense. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #16

I'd bet he'll try to kill himself real soon. sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #3

Put him in a room with a hook on the ceiling and let him keep his belt...eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #5

An arrogant little fuck like that will think he's smarter than everyone else in prison ... Myrina Mar 2013 #10

10 posts to Prison Rape! maxsolomon Mar 2013 #77

I didn't mention Prison Rape. Myrina Mar 2013 #93

Sorry, you did imply it. maxsolomon Mar 2013 #107

Sorry, that was YOUR insinuation. Myrina Mar 2013 #108

So coy. maxsolomon Mar 2013 #148

Only in your mind lbrtbell Mar 2013 #153

That was also how I read it nt duhneece Mar 2013 #188

+1. It always comes around to that. n/t eggplant Mar 2013 #95

Please see my response before jumping to conclusions. Myrina Mar 2013 #103

well we cetainly wouldnt want any harm to come to that poor misunderstood darling of an angel leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #122

he likely will be raped KT2000 Mar 2013 #114

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #120

if so, then that should be part of his sentence. maxsolomon Mar 2013 #147

Plain Dealer: T.J. Lane sentenced to life in prison in Chardon High School shootings Kolesar Mar 2013 #4

I'm surprised his attorney let him get away with this... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #21

The *judge* could have had the bailiff take him out of the room ... eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #32

I'd be tempted to cut off that hand he loves so well.. nt sir pball Mar 2013 #45

Superglue his hand to such well loved body parts. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #65

Yes, but if the Judge had done that, you wouldn't have this lovely display on the record for ET Awful Mar 2013 #64

I agree and think the judge would had every right to put him in a holding cell davidpdx Mar 2013 #168

It wouldn't have mattered Floyd_Gondolli Mar 2013 #109

I doubt the attorney or judge knew that would happen and couldn't prevent it. freshwest Mar 2013 #159

would have fit right in at CPAC greenman3610 Mar 2013 #85

His parents must be so proud Ruby the Liberal Mar 2013 #134

The five victims here. Top three deceased. One in hospital. Other released: freshwest Mar 2013 #156

Put him away. shenmue Mar 2013 #6

When he cracks, he is going to FEEL THE PAIN Berlum Mar 2013 #7

He will be in PC, protective custody, which means solitary, for the rest of his life. He should xtraxritical Mar 2013 #104

i didnt hear that - theyre not putting him in gen pop leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #124

Eventually he'll likely end up there Floyd_Gondolli Mar 2013 #126

DP? No way. TommyCelt Mar 2013 #127

Wow, what a psychopath. MNBrewer Mar 2013 #8

Yes, otherwise known as a sociopath. The extreme version of Antisocial Personality Disorder. slackmaster Mar 2013 #23

This kid doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. ellisonz Mar 2013 #9

No, I don't ever see him showing any remorse. MicaelS Mar 2013 #17

Yes he does. He just doesn't care. slackmaster Mar 2013 #24

He'll "find Jay-zus" and be featured on James Dobson's program. Archae Mar 2013 #30

I seriously doubt that this kid will make it to 21. premium Mar 2013 #50

Yes. They'll either kill him or make life so miserable that he kills himself. slackmaster Mar 2013 #94

That will be the last public smile he will ever have Botany Mar 2013 #11

As the vehicle pulls up and he sees that place, that smile will be loooooong gone�never to return. lexw Mar 2013 #19

I sure hope so. Archae Mar 2013 #29

Replied on the wrong post, I think. freshwest Mar 2013 #155

IDK. He seems to be a 'consumer.' May look at it as just a game. He had no respect for society. freshwest Mar 2013 #61

Richard Speck in a notorious video that was taken while he was in prison Mike Daniels Mar 2013 #116

He may be. He'll be with other lifers. They didn't get there by being nice. freshwest Mar 2013 #123

I guess you're right: I was putting myself in his shoes as he approached the prison... lexw Mar 2013 #145

OTOH, you may be right and I may be wrong. It just seemed his acts were a long time coming, is all. freshwest Mar 2013 #146

I see your points. Celebrity fascination -- enhanced by an almost desperate MSM -- Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #154

Yep, the lifers don't give a fuck what happens to them davidpdx Mar 2013 #169

If what was posted downthread about his family life is true, he passed the 'nothing to lose' stage a freshwest Mar 2013 #172

About that recidivism... BobTheSubgenius Mar 2013 #149

That was terrible. Was it on DU? I don't watch teevee. freshwest Mar 2013 #151

Nope... bobclark86 Mar 2013 #80

His body count isn't high enough Floyd_Gondolli Mar 2013 #128

Still enough to be on the next Lanza's "High Score" list. bobclark86 Mar 2013 #129

Trivia: Who is Mike Carneal? Floyd_Gondolli Mar 2013 #133

Please don't use the names of the Columbine (or any other) killers. I believe that encourages raccoon Mar 2013 #176

As the years in prison go by Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #12

His parents must be proud... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #13

Rot, indeed. MicaelS Mar 2013 #14

Actually isolation (protective custody) would be a mixed bag davidpdx Mar 2013 #170

quote from article: "three life terms in prison with no chance for parole" DetlefK Mar 2013 #15

I wonder if it really means that? So many people have gotten out of prison who had life sentences. freshwest Mar 2013 #160

Once he opened his outer shirt TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #18

Totally agree with you there theHandpuppet Mar 2013 #62

That seemed unusual to me. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #135

I agree deutsey Mar 2013 #83

I kinda agree RedstDem Mar 2013 #115

IMO, the point of the t-shirt and flipping the bird was because the winter is coming Mar 2013 #194

Apparently, the psychologist made a bad call on competence jberryhill Mar 2013 #20

The psychologist said he was sick, but gun-nut Judge Grendell decided to ignore that and try him. Kolesar Mar 2013 #27

Actually, the judge made the right call. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #70

Looks to me like there was "evidence..." Archae Mar 2013 #28

I didn't conduct an examination of the kid jberryhill Mar 2013 #33

How is it evidence he was incompetent to stand trial? geek tragedy Mar 2013 #66

But might a mental disorder have a bearing on the crime in the first place? randome Mar 2013 #87

Maybe, but usually not. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #88

I believe his behavior here is pretty much Res Ipsa Loquitur there jberryhill Mar 2013 #112

How so? He was already convicted. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #121

thank you Kali Mar 2013 #98

+ + + + + + + FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #163

I hope he dies a horrible death ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #22

I hope he dies naturally, a long, long time from now, and in otherwise good health Occulus Mar 2013 #131

TJ who? Still Blue in PDX Mar 2013 #25

Bravado -- I bet he's terrified inside. At least I hope he is. gateley Mar 2013 #26

Maybe he's trying to get solitary confinement Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #38

in all likelihood he will get solitary aka PC protective custody littlewolf Mar 2013 #82

Stunning sign of the times... Moostache Mar 2013 #31

+1 freshwest Mar 2013 #54

Tens of millions of teenagers don't do this jberryhill Mar 2013 #58

Speak for yourself, Moostache. kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #136

Your first two paragraphs ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #139

Careful with that horse. You're showing symptoms of hypoxia. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #142

Note something interesting about the video. He smirks when attacked, but not when victims described. nolabear Mar 2013 #34

We all suffer from different levels of different attacks. Get him away from the society. He can run judesedit Mar 2013 #40

For all we know, he may have admirers in prison, who think he's sticking to society like they did. freshwest Mar 2013 #57

Totally agree he should be removed, but do you really relish the idea of a human being tortured? nolabear Mar 2013 #59

... Kali Mar 2013 #105

It's interesting.... jberryhill Mar 2013 #113

I can sort of understand it Kali Mar 2013 #118

I understand it too, and in a rage might feel it. nolabear Mar 2013 #138

I don't feel any rage toward him. The object is to keep this from happening again. I hope not. freshwest Mar 2013 #158

I know. One of the worst thing about these things is we can only see them in the rearview mirror. nolabear Mar 2013 #185

This is the lesson here, that we effect each other. The DV in his history was a great part of it. freshwest Mar 2013 #192

. nolabear Mar 2013 #195

Your answer lies in the results of the Milgram Experiment. Occulus Mar 2013 #132

+1 I will not wish torture, or illness, or cruelty on anyone. I will NOT lower myself to that level. idwiyo Mar 2013 #143

Good choice to try this monster as an adult. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #35

I feel for his family.They are probably afraid of him, too.I can hear him squealing now.Punk judesedit Mar 2013 #36

Look up his parents' history (especially dad's) and it's easy to see how he turned out Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #43

I never heard of this... Archae Mar 2013 #47

here... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #51

"It's not clear how much contact the father and son had." jberryhill Mar 2013 #55

Even if there was little to no contact, the son would have at least known of dad's history Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #63

makes as much sense as blaming someone who had little or no contact leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #71

I believe that competent individuals are responsible for their own actions jberryhill Mar 2013 #111

They did have at least some contact. FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #165

Imagine living that life as a little child, and seeing and hearing those things. Horrifying. nolabear Mar 2013 #60

Yes, that makes his outburst a little more understandable - but not helpful to anyone or himself. freshwest Mar 2013 #161

I no longer counsel kids because so many are "designated patients". nolabear Mar 2013 #186

I did davidpdx Mar 2013 #171

I'm so sorry. I hope you find some real satisfaction in your life. nolabear Mar 2013 #187

Far from it. FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #164

Puts the OP into a different light. Thanks for bringing it upthread. freshwest Mar 2013 #196

Whoa. You rarely get to see a sociopath on full display. Those poor families in the courtroom... nt riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #37

Classic sociopath mokawanis Mar 2013 #39

Not sure what it is, but it isn't human AndyA Mar 2013 #41

Not necessarily sir pball Mar 2013 #44

Just checked. The parents were cockroaches AndyA Mar 2013 #53

Not all abuse and maltreatment result in violent murderers, but all violent murderers yodermon Mar 2013 #81

I'm not saying he wasn't abused nor that abuse is not an issue sir pball Mar 2013 #190

He's a human being with a very severe mental illness slackmaster Mar 2013 #48

The parents certainly didn't help AndyA Mar 2013 #56

Families need guns to protect them from "evil" Kolesar Mar 2013 #92

. jberryhill Mar 2013 #52

His parents must be horrid- doubt it after reading about the father leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #72

A bullet is a hell of a lot cheaper than three hot and a cot sir pball Mar 2013 #42

Agreed. bamacrat Mar 2013 #79

He's a tough guy now, premium Mar 2013 #46

A mother of one of the victims stated my sentiments... richmwill Mar 2013 #49

Ayn Rand would have loved that little punk devilgrrl Mar 2013 #67

these are the types of people the nra and supporters want to be armed samsingh Mar 2013 #68

It's his last hurrah, and he knows it. Iggo Mar 2013 #69

Sociopath get the red out Mar 2013 #73

If only he had a tax break or more guns. nt valerief Mar 2013 #74

meh, he's a young sociopath... Javaman Mar 2013 #75

Looks like a Young Republican. ErikJ Mar 2013 #76

He wanted revenge!!! beachgirl2365 Mar 2013 #78

Hope he enjoys staring at a jail cell wall for the rest of his life. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #84

To the posters above who call this man an animal and suggest putting him down, hedgehog Mar 2013 #86

Agreed. Wishing death and misery on someone does not make us better. randome Mar 2013 #89

+1. eggplant Mar 2013 #100

Thank you. FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #166

I'm not sure why it is. You don't get angry at a rabid dog, you neutralize the danger it presents. freshwest Mar 2013 #197

Say what you will, but behind those quick blinking eyes, lies fear. Fear of his unknown future. His Ninga Mar 2013 #90

Can we start calling these losers by a code name Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #91

John Brunner coined a general term for them in the novel "Stand On Zanzibar" slackmaster Mar 2013 #96

Good idea. Especially since we now learn that the "Loser of Dec. 2012" had kept notes FailureToCommunicate Mar 2013 #97

Totally worth our AMERICAN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO GUNS. onehandle Mar 2013 #99

24/7 dark solitary confinement for life sounds about right. Lucky Luciano Mar 2013 #101

What, by the way, was his motive? Myrina Mar 2013 #102

Jealousy of his ex-girlfiend--he shot a guy dating her. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #106

According to tesimony from fellow classmates, the victim had been openly threatening TJ FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #167

that little cutie pie is going to be popular in prison.. frylock Mar 2013 #117

That character from Oz who meets with a terrible fate, which leaves geek tragedy Mar 2013 #130

If it had been one of my family members EvilAL Mar 2013 #125

Good riddance secondvariety Mar 2013 #137

He's a young republican Joey Liberal Mar 2013 #140

Kick n/t Tx4obama Mar 2013 #141

A term that describes him perfectly Rocknrule Mar 2013 #144

Have fun in prison, asshole. BlueStater Mar 2013 #150

This young man will certainly brighten the day for some older, vicious, seasoned inmates. Kablooie Mar 2013 #152

Congratulations DU! flvegan Mar 2013 #157

I guess our little revenge/rape fantasies... Orsino Mar 2013 #193

TJ Lane is a very sick boy who has auditory hallucinations, depression and involuntary fantasies FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #162

Glimmers of humanity. JNelson6563 Mar 2013 #173

Agree 110% nonoyes Mar 2013 #179

Thanks for the link to this background info. nonoyes Mar 2013 #180

Thanks for reading and considering it. FedUpWithIt All Mar 2013 #181

Agree 110% nonoyes Mar 2013 #182

thank you. What I saw was teenage bravado masking terror. magical thyme Mar 2013 #183

Thank your for taking the higher ground nt duhneece Mar 2013 #189

Obviously TJ Lane has a death wish. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #174

I choose to shun him. HughBeaumont Mar 2013 #175

What this kid did is horrible and inexcusable Amaya Mar 2013 #177

Two words: general population Freddie Stubbs Mar 2013 #178

Message auto-removed ICallBS Mar 2013 #184

Forget This Sick Little Punk. He's History. Paladin Mar 2013 #191