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43. We shot this bill down in Washington state.

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Tue Mar 19, 2013, 05:03 PM

Mar 2013

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Assault weapons ban dropped from Senate bill [View all] Little Star Mar 2013 OP

Not surprised. MinneapolisMatt Mar 2013 #1

It never was what supporters thought it was Recursion Mar 2013 #2

I'm confused Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #3

There is a gun control bill and the AWB Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #10

That makes more sense Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #55

thr gun nut lobby strikes again bowens43 Mar 2013 #4

2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 Vote in the primarys. Get rid of these parasites judesedit Mar 2013 #5

There is no way Feinstein can be primaried out. She's very well entrenched. She'll be in the... slackmaster Mar 2013 #13

She was just xxqqqzme Mar 2013 #40

About two weeks ago she described the quest for an AW ban as her "life's mission." slackmaster Mar 2013 #45

Reid, not Feinstein Enrique Mar 2013 #66

I think Reid's decision to shed the poison pill will help ensure that he doesn't get primaried slackmaster Mar 2013 #68

I was thinking the same thing davidpdx Mar 2013 #110

Alaska, Montana, Arkansas, South Dakota, New Mexico, Virginia, Louisiana hack89 Mar 2013 #21

Really? Aquavit Mar 2013 #103

Just pointing out the politcal reality that gun control faces hack89 Mar 2013 #115

i hate to agree with Hack89 of all people maxsolomon Mar 2013 #170

Gun nuts win - let the bodies hit the floor jpak Mar 2013 #6

You think they care? Nihil Mar 2013 #75

We have a better chance of getting Assault Weapons Bans passed at the state level right now. SecularMotion Mar 2013 #7

You haven't been paying attention hack89 Mar 2013 #22

Which is telling... primavera Mar 2013 #100

Why do you think that support is evenly distributed? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #114

Depends on the state. No thanks here in WA. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #41

Too bad Dianne Feinstein isn't Senate Majority Leader red dog 1 Mar 2013 #8

Show the pictures of the bullet-riddled bodies of the children in a hearing. n/t BumRushDaShow Mar 2013 #9

When everyother strategy fails roxy1234 Mar 2013 #18

A 22 revolver will not blow the limbs off a child the way a spray from an AR-15 does (and did). SunSeeker Mar 2013 #48

Where does your information come from? Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #56

Seriously? You deny multiple rounds from an AR-15 can blow a KID's limbs off? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #65

I'm not saying is isn't (barely) possible Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #118

It's not impossible. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #140

Thank you for completing the trifecta of gungeoneer arguments. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #162

Um, bullshit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #165

I see, going back to step 1. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #166

Mischaracterize all you want, you are factually wrong. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #167

Heres one right here. premium Mar 2013 #168

Let's talk bout rational SpartanDem Mar 2013 #58

The ability to clip in huge capacity is key, along with the high velocity of the bullets. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #67

High velocity? Clames Mar 2013 #70

As long as the rifle doesn't take extended mags, I'm fine with it. It's the combo. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #72

They should be banned too. Clames Mar 2013 #83

So predictable. I knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #84

Incorrigible. n/t Clames Mar 2013 #87

I'll jump in here... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #120

The bullets are the same length. You may be thinking of the cartridge Recursion Mar 2013 #128

high velocity DustyJoe Mar 2013 #130

You are mischaracterizing the .223 Remington/5.56 NATO cartridge. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #142

So, a gangbanger selling firearms illegally Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #119

The gangbanger bought the arms legally at first SpartanDem Mar 2013 #121

What you're describing is illegal Recursion Mar 2013 #129

Then, no, he wasn't buying the firearms legally Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #131

Without universal background checks, the straw purchaser can 'move' a lot more guns AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #144

A straw purchaser (by Definition) can PASS a background check Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #151

NO FUCKING SHIT. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #153

Alternatively, you can just plea out on the gun charge Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #155

Yesterday. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #157

And that is EXACTLY what needs to happen. Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #159

The two issues are separate. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #160

Ok that makes sense NT Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #161

Background checks can choke off one avenue by which those guns GET to the 'gangbanger' AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #143

Again, a straw purchaser (by definition) can PASS a background check. NT Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #152

Thanks for your meaningless and uninteresting response. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #154

With background checks there is a record SpartanDem Mar 2013 #164

I get that but I suspect it will take several years to see a dramatic change Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #169

It was poision for the more reasonable and broadly accepted parts of the bill slackmaster Mar 2013 #11

Not good politics? Most Americans support an AWB. AR killings DOUBLED after the last one expired. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #82

No - they did not double hack89 Mar 2013 #88

Links? Deaths by ASSAULT Rifles did double. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #90

How could you possibly freaking know that? Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #95

Correct. The FBI UCR Table 20 only lists Rifles as a single category. Clames Mar 2013 #98

I read the news... SunSeeker Mar 2013 #102

The majority of mass shootings use normal handguns Recursion Mar 2013 #124

How about you providing a link that shows they doubled? hack89 Mar 2013 #113

You are spouting nonsense. Figures to discriminate crimes with "assault" vs. "hunting" rifles... slackmaster Mar 2013 #136

The rifle used at Sandy Hook was legal under the old AWB hack89 Mar 2013 #89

It IS an Assault Weapon, and would be illegal under Feinstein's AWB. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #91

Wouldn't have been banned anyway. Clames Mar 2013 #99

It would have banned future AR purchases, like the last AWB. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #101

Didn't ban those either. Clames Mar 2013 #105

Enough with the lies. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #107

Wrong again. Clames Mar 2013 #109

I sold a ton of new AR's during the ban NickB79 Mar 2013 #145

He's not lying. You could buy pre-ban weapons, new in box, that were produced prior to the ban. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #147

You brought up the old AWB hack89 Mar 2013 #112

It was not banned in 1994 because it only has one feature hack89 Mar 2013 #117

That rifle was perfectly legal for sale in 1995 after the CAWB was enacted. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #146

It's time for Harry Reid to step down as Senate Majority Leader BainsBane Mar 2013 #12

His fellow Senators get to choose their leader hack89 Mar 2013 #24

I agree! They need to vote him out as leader.... Little Star Mar 2013 #175

Call your Senators PADemD Mar 2013 #14

They don't listen to me. slackmaster Mar 2013 #15

I believe it. blackspade Mar 2013 #16

Good news. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #17

But...but....but.. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2013 #19

A minority of gun worshipers still controls the government Progressive dog Mar 2013 #20

Profiles in Cowardice CanonRay Mar 2013 #23

The threat of legislation may have backfired shagsak Mar 2013 #25

The yahoos that love such lethal weapons will always find a reason to buy them. Hoyt Mar 2013 #27

Of course it backfired. Look at the measurable results of the now-expired federal AWB: slackmaster Mar 2013 #28

+1000 nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #64

Irony is lost in this thread. Prohibition causes that. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #138

Shithole Country SidneyR Mar 2013 #26

Reid has blown it again! Duval Mar 2013 #29

In this case, the filibuster rule wouldn't have mattered, premium Mar 2013 #34

Laughing at all those 'fools' that stood in line to pay outrageous prices for those AW-lookalikes.;) Purveyor Mar 2013 #30

Apparently Reid does not work for the American people mwrguy Mar 2013 #31

The gun humpers win again. forestpath Mar 2013 #32

Another case of "OFF THE TABLE", right? SylviaD Mar 2013 #33

Something Sen. Feinstein's AWB didn't do. premium Mar 2013 #36

Expected. As the country blueifies and populates, UK and Japan type laws will be come to be. onehandle Mar 2013 #35

WRONG. The gun nuts breed like rabbits. Check state by state birth rates. n/t SylviaD Mar 2013 #38

We shot this bill down in Washington state. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #43

Are folks "breeding like rabbits" up there? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #139

Nope. That's part of why, at least in some places in the country, that 'breeding' comment is invalid AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #141

20 dead babies in Connecticut not enough to do something? Botany Mar 2013 #37

He and the rest of our "leadership" has a lot to answer for. n/t SylviaD Mar 2013 #39

Actually, this increases the liklihood the bill will pass. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #44

Anytime we get half-a-bill, somebody calls it a "big fucking deal". Ken Burch Mar 2013 #54

In this case the alternative would have been no bill at all slackmaster Mar 2013 #57

By itself, the background checks are a big deal. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #59

Assuming THAT doesn't get watered-down to something halfway-or-less as well. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #60

True, there are a lot of ways that happens. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #61

It will pass only if no republican does the "pocket filibuster" thing Botany Mar 2013 #69

Sen. Feinstein herself admitted that she has barely 40 votes for an AWB, premium Mar 2013 #71

If 20 babies and 6 teachers being cut up by an assault rifle does not get .... Botany Mar 2013 #73

I well know what the M-16 can do to human flesh. premium Mar 2013 #74

I was just a kid but I saw what a V.C. or NVA grenade could do to ... Botany Mar 2013 #79

i'm struggling sweetapogee Mar 2013 #122

how about the right to assemble @ a: Botany Mar 2013 #125

if you believe sweetapogee Mar 2013 #134

Go sell that b.s. someplace else Botany Mar 2013 #135

murder is b.s. sweetapogee Mar 2013 #171

because this is not about me Botany Mar 2013 #172

Australia has had two mass killings since they banned assault weapons Recursion Mar 2013 #123

The ex P.M. of Australia would disagree with you ..... John Howard Botany Mar 2013 #126

The fact remains there have been two mass killings. Meanwhile, the US has had a *greater* reduction Recursion Mar 2013 #127

the US has had a *greater* reduction in gun and non-gun violence Botany Mar 2013 #132

OMG! You posted pictures of dead children! Suddenly facts are meaningless! Recursion Mar 2013 #133

You tried to use numbers, and when you found the numbers don't support your position AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #150

Those dead kids deserve to be seen and if it makes the gun lovers uncomfortable so what Botany Mar 2013 #156

Good grief you can't get anything right. AR stands for ARmalite. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #158

The AR stands for ARmalite. premium Mar 2013 #163

I totally agree with Michael Moore... horsedoc Mar 2013 #42

Bottom line - Newtown changed NOTHING. bullwinkle428 Mar 2013 #46

I think your conclusion is premature. The demise of the AW ban means a better chance that something slackmaster Mar 2013 #47

I hope your wrong. n/t Little Star Mar 2013 #52

In other words, there's now nothing in the bill that matters. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #49

Background checks on private sales of used firearms would be the biggest gun control win in decades slackmaster Mar 2013 #50

What? premium Mar 2013 #51

You have that backwards: the AWB was pointless Recursion Mar 2013 #62

OK...if nothing else AT ALL is changed in the bill. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #63

The AWB was useless junk SpartanDem Mar 2013 #53

The AWB was not useless junk. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #78

Well it was. Clames Mar 2013 #85

Bullshit. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #92

Those are specifically addressed in the studies I've linked. Clames Mar 2013 #96

Nothing in your links denies that deaths by ARs doubled since the AWB expired. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #104

You have provided absolutely no proof to back that spurious claim. Clames Mar 2013 #106

That 10 year ban didn't stop the sale of weapons like the one used in CT. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #148

Not surprised that it didn't proceed. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #76

FUCK GUNS!!! elias7 Mar 2013 #77

It is a shame that too many in the House and Senate lack the political courage to take on the gun Nika Mar 2013 #80

Bingo Little Star Mar 2013 #81

+1,000. n/t. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #94

gotta let mentally unstable whackjobs have their toys fascisthunter Mar 2013 #86

Exactly, otherwise, what would they wear? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #93

I'm no fan of Harry Reid. Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #97

I knew it. jsr Mar 2013 #108

I can unfortunately davidpdx Mar 2013 #111

The AWB was dead with or without the filibuster reform madville Mar 2013 #173

Don't worry..... sendero Mar 2013 #116

Message auto-removed ICallBS Mar 2013 #137

Called it when the first calls for a new AWB were proposed NickB79 Mar 2013 #149

Let the military give up their assault weapons first Ter Mar 2013 #174