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122. I wish we could live in a country where people were secure enough

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #82)

Fri Feb 3, 2012, 03:51 AM

Feb 2012

in their own belief (or non-belief) that they didn't

have to sneer at those of others as "fairy tales".

Screw your condescension and arrogance...I'm tired of

hearing atheists here insulting people who don't agree with them.

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At prayer breakfast, Obama says Christian faith guides his policies [View all] alp227 Feb 2012 OP

Ew, I just threw up a little. Time to pander I guess. Lionessa Feb 2012 #1

Ha! Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #5

Its not pandering if he says it because he believes it SaintPete Feb 2012 #43

depending on your point of view deacon_sephiroth Feb 2012 #47

Obviously he is using a tactic/strategy here. Condescendingly and slyly calling out conservatives. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #68

i don't think it is entirely that cynical arely staircase Feb 2012 #78

Agree and thank you. classof56 Feb 2012 #102

Putting forth the idea that he is in anyway using a faith to make gov't decisions Lionessa Feb 2012 #52

I would argue Chiyo-chichi Feb 2012 #58

In fact, getting involved in the hypocrisy, in-fighting and meanness that JDPriestly Feb 2012 #154

"his religion"?....Give it a rest....MOST of the world's religions preach "love they neighbor" whathehell Feb 2012 #94

"for unto whom much is given, much shall be required" is such a pandering anti-constitutional thing? uppityperson Feb 2012 #148

He SHOULD be suggesting it because it's the logical thing to do to get the economy to recover, NOT Lionessa Feb 2012 #152

You really should get that stomach of yours looked at. eom uppityperson Feb 2012 #153

Yes. Jesus' teachings were not unique. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #155

He went to services in Hawaii over Christmas 2011. n/t secondwind Feb 2012 #201

No, azureblue Feb 2012 #48

Been there, done those, and still it's an entirely vomit-worthy comment. Lionessa Feb 2012 #53

you really are a vomiter, eh? SaintPete Feb 2012 #96

Actually, I'd bet more people would find your persistent religion hating spleen venting whathehell Feb 2012 #97

Thank you, whatthehell. CBHagman Feb 2012 #111

You're very welcome.. whathehell Feb 2012 #118

You have no idea why that might be? HuckleB Feb 2012 #166

So what? HuckleB Feb 2012 #165

�...it also coincides with Jesus�s teaching that for unto whom much is given... FiveGoodMen Feb 2012 #59

+1 HuckleB Feb 2012 #80

yeah, that's how he kept a right wing congress from letting unemployment benefits expire arely staircase Feb 2012 #83

+++1,000 nt nanabugg Feb 2012 #185

+ 2000 BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #194

Devil's in the details. Igel Feb 2012 #84

Presidents don't set tax rates. The Congress does. CBHagman Feb 2012 #112

Dumb bullshit half truth. emulatorloo Feb 2012 #143

But that was then and now he has an election to win...... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #161

Feeling a bit condescending today? enlightenment Feb 2012 #63

LOTS of condescending atheists on this board. n/t whathehell Feb 2012 #101

Your concern is duly noted. LAGC Feb 2012 #123

Actually, it is....When you're secure enough to leave your small world whathehell Feb 2012 #132

being a minority doesn't make you wrong, implying so makes you sound rather La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #134

nah bro Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #146

lol La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #147

... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #163

For being mildly rebuking, baldrad Feb 2012 #72

Like in Matthew 6:5, where Jesus explicitly said not to make conspicuous displays of prayer? MNBrewer Feb 2012 #81

Exactly. HuckleB Feb 2012 #79

Don't be silly... whathehell Feb 2012 #103

That has nothing to do with what I posted. HuckleB Feb 2012 #108

"for unto whom much is given, much shall be required" is illogical, doesn't use evidence, is bad? uppityperson Feb 2012 #149

So that's the extent of this supposed faith? HuckleB Feb 2012 #157

Who said that? Only your assumption there. Is "for unto whom much is given, much shall be required" uppityperson Feb 2012 #158

If you're going to stick to that single line, then you're apparently making that assumption. HuckleB Feb 2012 #159

Simply waiting for you to answer my question rather than dodge it. uppityperson Feb 2012 #167

I've given an answer. HuckleB Feb 2012 #169

Please show me where you answered that question as I don't see it. Thank you. uppityperson Feb 2012 #170

And now you're off on another tangent. HuckleB Feb 2012 #171

You said you answered. I'd like to see the answer as I can't find it. You now won't show me your uppityperson Feb 2012 #173

You're asking politely? HuckleB Feb 2012 #188

Maybe he throws up at atheists. whathehell Feb 2012 #88

Maybe he throws up at atheists. AlbertCat Feb 2012 #92

Like me, he probably doesn't have problems with atheists generally, just the rude, intolerant whathehell Feb 2012 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author HuckleB Feb 2012 #160

What about holding 2 competing ideas cilla4progress Feb 2012 #113

Hmm. HuckleB Feb 2012 #162

What's wrong with belief, or faith? cilla4progress Feb 2012 #197

In other words, you can't answer my questions. HuckleB Feb 2012 #208

So your view prevails? cilla4progress Feb 2012 #210

How is noting that the stories are unfounded being intolerant? HuckleB Feb 2012 #211

You give no credence cilla4progress Feb 2012 #212

Say what? HuckleB Feb 2012 #213

Every creation story is true cilla4progress Feb 2012 #214

Oh brother. HuckleB Feb 2012 #215

Oooh - no place in politics - cilla4progress Feb 2012 #218

Again, oh brother. HuckleB Feb 2012 #219

Who you talking about? I'm a pagan. cilla4progress Feb 2012 #220

What? Its a freaking prayer breakfast cstanleytech Feb 2012 #119

This story has generated a whole lot of nausea and vomiting on both sides of the political aisle slackmaster Feb 2012 #139

Who are we really to question his faith when it's obvious that he tries to live his beliefs. The Wielding Truth Feb 2012 #145

this just makes me sad.... mike_c Feb 2012 #2

Obama is a pretty smart dude. AlbertCat Feb 2012 #93

Of course he did. This pisses off the birthers that claim he's a secret moose-lim. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #117

how man people did jesus kill in drone attacks? the bible is mum on the topic nt msongs Feb 2012 #3

...or find a closet that would hold 3000 people? pocoloco Feb 2012 #7

They didn't have drones in Jesus's time. demosincebirth Feb 2012 #18

Or what? Cherchez la Femme Feb 2012 #36

No but they had stones, same thing just shorter range. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #56

From stones to drones. My how we have evolved. iscooterliberally Feb 2012 #61

Sure they did Hawkowl Feb 2012 #70

The ruling class would have used them against him if they did. harun Feb 2012 #205

Christian faith guides mine, too. That's why I'm a Liberal Democrat BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #4

I think the majority of "non-Christians"... Wait Wut Feb 2012 #9

I am a christian as well, and as well a very liberal Democrat MACARD Feb 2012 #11

You are correct, but the many Christian haters here will NOT want to hear it. whathehell Feb 2012 #90

"angry atheists" refusing to acknowledge that there are any but the Right Wing fundamentalist AlbertCat Feb 2012 #95

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #98

The most anger and judgment in this thread appears to be in your posts FlaGatorJD Feb 2012 #128

In your view -- If you check the thread, you'll see I've gotten "thanks" from others here. whathehell Feb 2012 #130

good to hear from you, as an atheist i can understand that religion is not inherently partisan. alp227 Feb 2012 #110

I'm with you MACARD. The Wielding Truth Feb 2012 #180

Then why DOMA? zipplewrath Feb 2012 #15

My sediments (since we are talking about stones) exactly. FedUp_Queer Feb 2012 #77

DOMA is a Clinton and Republican law BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #195

Mine, too! Cuz Jesus was a liberal. Point. Blank. Period! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #37

Thanks LS71. BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #196

thank you nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #87

Right on BlueCaliDem! cilla4progress Feb 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author cilla4progress Feb 2012 #115

Right on! cilla4progress Feb 2012 #116

Thank you, me also. Not the Fundamentalist Extremist bs, but as you say. uppityperson Feb 2012 #150

It sounds to me like he's suggesting a simple pattern Feb 2012 #6

Abraham Lincoln's "Second Inaugural". . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #24

I'm going to save that quote. pnorman Feb 2012 #34

Thanks for that. a simple pattern Feb 2012 #50

Isn't that the quote on the wall in the Lincoln Memorial? nt patrice Feb 2012 #64

Yes. His two most important speeches are etched in full on the walls of the memorial. . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #109

Yes. Obama was sincere in talking about his own faith. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #33

Aw, he's just sucking up to the yokels tularetom Feb 2012 #8

Whom is he trying to convince of that? AmericaIsGreat Feb 2012 #10

thank you for proving my point! ever predictable MACARD Feb 2012 #12

It's election season. tblue Feb 2012 #14

Well, I don't see any evidence that he has used Christianity to guide his policies AmericaIsGreat Feb 2012 #67

The same thing he said the last time... Kahuna Feb 2012 #13

Until the 1970's and 1980's Christian activists in politics were left of center bluestateguy Feb 2012 #16

The naysayers skip those issues when they read U.S. history, just like the fundies skipping the most demosincebirth Feb 2012 #20

He's consistent. truthisfreedom Feb 2012 #17

The Fellowship kenfrequed Feb 2012 #19

Whats with this myth Iliyah Feb 2012 #21

Areed. efhmc Feb 2012 #26

You are correct. whathehell Feb 2012 #104

Thank you. emulatorloo Feb 2012 #144

they are not aligned with the devil Puzzledtraveller Feb 2012 #175

You asked "Wasn't Obama brought up as an atheist?" DesertRat Feb 2012 #22

Sad. The #1 thing that guides his policies SHOULD be his love of the Constitution. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #23

Particularly since he's supposed to be a Constitutional scholar. Lionessa Feb 2012 #55

He doesn't even need sulphurdunn Feb 2012 #73

+1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #151

Yea, people, Obama should come right out as an Atheist! flamingdem Feb 2012 #25

thank you. Its called poliltics. zonkers Feb 2012 #32

Yes, unlike the tone-deaf Romney, Obama actually knows what you have to say in order to get elected nxylas Feb 2012 #57

It would also be dishonest, since he isn't one. nt Critters2 Feb 2012 #120

Jeebus told me to kill Osama!!!1! AngryAmish Feb 2012 #27

You might read this from snopes before the election TexasProgresive Feb 2012 #28

I love that President Obama is standing up for Christians Obamacare Feb 2012 #29

I do admit there has been a lot of Brand poisoning. Gore1FL Feb 2012 #76

Who is doing the judging? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2012 #176

Rather than reaffirming their faith in Christianity usrname Feb 2012 #30

Well to be honest, depends on which Christian values LynneSin Feb 2012 #31

Well in my book those are the real Christian values. The Christian Right has perverted yellowcanine Feb 2012 #40

Amen! LynneSin Feb 2012 #46

I have no problem with this as long as it is the Sermon on the Mount and the Golden Rule. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #35

The "National Prayer Breakfast" is sponsored by none other than our old friends on C Street KamaAina Feb 2012 #38

But Obama delivered a much different message than the usual Prayer Breakfast speaker. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #44

That proves it! He is a secret Muslin!! KamaAina Feb 2012 #69

That's an accusation cut from whole cloth. . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #204

and...check! Phlem Feb 2012 #39

WWJD? MisterP Feb 2012 #41

"....Jesus�s teaching that �for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,� � Obama said yellowcanine Feb 2012 #42

Ah, that's from the Acts o' the Apostles....Chapter 4 Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #71

Yes, another thing the Christian Right keeps very quiet about. Of course they don's so much as read yellowcanine Feb 2012 #127

Then he ought to re-study the "suffer the children" line - bread_and_roses Feb 2012 #45

in the words of Bender... deacon_sephiroth Feb 2012 #49

Would it be too much to ask that logic and reason be his guide, rather than bronze-age bullshit? Jester Messiah Feb 2012 #51

Actually Christ lived during the Iron Age. n/t EX500rider Feb 2012 #60

Oh, well that's completely different then. [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2012 #75

... Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #86

Yes, in that logic and reason can't do it all...There are these things called "values" whathehell Feb 2012 #121

ok deacon_sephiroth Feb 2012 #135

There are logical rationales for those values Jester Messiah Feb 2012 #164

Glad I wasn't there One_Life_To_Give Feb 2012 #54

like it or not...that is what he believes madrchsod Feb 2012 #62

2006: Barack Obama: Call To Renewal - Faith and Politics Speech Tx4obama Feb 2012 #65

I'm a little confused by a group that faults him on being Christian and then also faults patrice Feb 2012 #66

I fault him for his opposition to the rights of others using dogma as an excuse. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #74

While I get what he is saying... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #82

I wish we could live in a country where people were secure enough whathehell Feb 2012 #122

Yeah, and we're tired of religion being shoved in our faces at every opportunity. LAGC Feb 2012 #124

Who here is "shoving religion in your faces at every opportunity"?..I'm certainly not. whathehell Feb 2012 #131

"Screw your condescension and arrogance". Is this the new standard for discussion? nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #202

if your faith were so strong and secure awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #203

Gag. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #85

Obama says Christian faith guides his policies AlbertCat Feb 2012 #89

Only FUNDAMENTALIST Christian faith excludes ... markpkessinger Feb 2012 #91

THANK You!!.... whathehell Feb 2012 #105

Faith does not include logic and common sense. Faith is "belief that does not rhett o rick Feb 2012 #138

Being guided by one's faith is not the same as "using faith to solve real world problems" markpkessinger Feb 2012 #174

With respect, they sound the same to me. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #179

What do people expect the president to say at a prayer breakfast? Akoto Feb 2012 #99

He could have a prior engagement. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #107

Really? So the president should abandon tradition to appease atheists? That's Kahuna Feb 2012 #125

Speaking as an Episcopalian, perhaps he should abandon it . . . markpkessinger Feb 2012 #168

you don't have to be an atheist to think that there is already excessive religion in politics La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #177

True that. But, it is what it is. All presidents will always Kahuna Feb 2012 #200

Ya know Coyote_Bandit Feb 2012 #106

Who Would Jesus Bomb? SHRED Feb 2012 #126

since the Emperor Constantine, everyone and anyone who is a threat to the state. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #129

Yeah, except that "threat to the state" stuff is hardly limited to Jesus, or Constantine. whathehell Feb 2012 #133

argument wasn't made. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #136

I agree deacon_sephiroth Feb 2012 #137

Why does one have to include every figure? HuckleB Feb 2012 #172

In his case I actually believe it Doctor_J Feb 2012 #141

That's sad. bowens43 Feb 2012 #142

While I appreciate him shoving the Christian thing down the GOP's throats ... Myrina Feb 2012 #156

so true. La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #178

oh, so that's why he orders choie Feb 2012 #181

Ewwww. . . . just spit up a moutful from lunch. . . . BigDemVoter Feb 2012 #182

So he is either lying or stupid? Throd Feb 2012 #183

Why do people have to be so stupid and sensitive JI7 Feb 2012 #184

Yes, we should all continue to bow down to this nonsense. HuckleB Feb 2012 #189

nobody is asking you to bow down to anything JI7 Feb 2012 #190

Oh, I understand politics just fine. HuckleB Feb 2012 #192

so what the fuck are you outraged for ? don't you want Obama to win the election and expose JI7 Feb 2012 #193

Who said I was outraged? HuckleB Feb 2012 #209

I just threw up a little! Jefferson is rolling in his grave. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #186

What are you bitching about? cbrer Feb 2012 #187

The RUMMYisFROSTED Feb 2012 #191

If Thomas Jefferson were to run for president today he wouldn't get past the primaries because Monk06 Feb 2012 #198

Why should he say something that he doesn't believe? SaintPete Feb 2012 #206

It was a rhetorical suggestion. The rightwing goes out of its way to avoid the fact Monk06 Feb 2012 #207

You think Obama is lying about his beliefs? Zax2me Feb 2012 #216

I don't think he's lying I just don't approve of public displays of piety. Leave that to the Fundies Monk06 Feb 2012 #217

The following image is in response to this thread, not Obama's remarks... killbotfactory Feb 2012 #199