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In reply to the discussion: CVS Workers Must Report How Much They Weigh Or Pay $600 Fine [View all]aaaaaa5a
(4,686 posts)93. Agreed.
AGAIN, I am not saying ALL unhealthy people are so because of their lifestyle. Everyone here has a story of a an otherwise healthy person who became stricken with an illness due to bad luck. However SOME of these cases such as Type II diabetes ARE BECAUSE of lifestyle choices.
For instance, smoking leads to lung cancer. People who smoke are more likely to have lung cancer as well as a whole host of other ailments. This does not mean otherwise healthy people never get lung cancer. But there is enough scientific evidence to support the fact that smoking is not a wise decision, even though some people who never smoke develop lung cancer, and some people who smoke like chimneys live to be 90.
Smokers and Mountain Dew drinkers are the exact same people to me. And given the cost to our society caused by such ailments such as obesity, I would even argue there is a "second hand smoke" effect to people who chose to drink soft drink, dine at fast food restaurants... etc. etc. etc.
You could argue that what this company is doing is essentially no different than charging smokers an additional tax when they buy cigarettes. And BTW... yes I think there should be an additional tax on items such as soft drink. Cola drinks are a sugary, diabetic, insulin killing poison that affects all of us. And it does NOT cost more money to drink tea or water.
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BMI does not account for frame or muscle mass. Also it only squares height where it should cube (
MillennialDem
Mar 2013
#44
Is it a fine or a discount for people who try to make an effort to lead healthy lives? nt
aaaaaa5a
Mar 2013
#81
Please re-read my last post. I NEVER said it was ONLY about personal responsibility.
aaaaaa5a
Mar 2013
#80
But it is also wrong to assume that things like Type II diabetes are simply "lifestyle" diseases. .
markpkessinger
Mar 2013
#90
Had they created a discount for partiicpating, that would have been acceptable. What they did is no
robinlynne
Mar 2013
#54
Actually the whole rule is broken because it does not account for height properly at all
MillennialDem
Mar 2013
#87
it is being challenged because you said "ray lewis needs to lose weight to be
Nanjing to Seoul
Mar 2013
#92
I think it's great that they are taking an interest in the health of their employees
slackmaster
Mar 2013
#12
One of the common apologia for Bloomberg's nonsense are the healthcare costs
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2013
#84
Yup. The insurance model of health coverage keeps getting more and more unworkable all the time.
Jerry442
Mar 2013
#20
Maybe they're doing it backward? We get a 40% discount for participating in a health program.
George II
Mar 2013
#16
are they also going to test them for the use of nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, etc.
olddad56
Mar 2013
#37
shame that i lost interest in your missive after the first words of snark and snide
Nanjing to Seoul
Mar 2013
#107
this would devolve into a flame war, but i'll just put you on ignore and that's the end of it
Nanjing to Seoul
Mar 2013
#112
If I do not give them the same information like CVS wants, my insurance dings me 600 big ones.
Safetykitten
Mar 2013
#55
Good on them. They should also ask how many people you sleep with in a year
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#62
Companies have done that for years with smoking. They are free to charge
sinkingfeeling
Mar 2013
#71
What if they ask "Have you ever had an abortion; use birth control; Tcell count?"
kiranon
Mar 2013
#79
WTF? Really, WTF? How is fucking BMI became a legitimate predictor of someone's health?
idwiyo
Mar 2013
#108
And what about autoimmune diseases that mess with your metabolism?
Manifestor_of_Light
Mar 2013
#113