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104. There are ways to promote health that don't involve collecting personal data

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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:59 AM

Mar 2013

Color me skeptical but I think this has more to do with targeting employes for elimination than promoting their health.

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CVS Workers Must Report How Much They Weigh Or Pay $600 Fine [View all] Bennyboy Mar 2013 OP

Link insurance company executive pay to their own BMI Blandocyte Mar 2013 #1

I had to get a physical or pay 200 a month extra for insurance XRubicon Mar 2013 #2

In a country where obesity is a real problem upaloopa Mar 2013 #3

BMI does not account for frame or muscle mass. Also it only squares height where it should cube ( MillennialDem Mar 2013 #44

They already do. gauguin57 Mar 2013 #77

Discriminatory HeiressofBickworth Mar 2013 #4

Not discriminatory caraher Mar 2013 #6

+1 aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #10

Your definition of "a big part of the health care problem" bread_and_roses Mar 2013 #33

I agree with almost everything you wrote. aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #40

Personal responsibility abelenkpe Mar 2013 #63

Is it a fine or a discount for people who try to make an effort to lead healthy lives? nt aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #81

In this case it is a fine abelenkpe Mar 2013 #89

Those are popular words with left-wingers, as well tabasco Mar 2013 #105

Many food choices, however, Brainstormy Mar 2013 #76

Please re-read my last post. I NEVER said it was ONLY about personal responsibility. aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #80

No argument there Brainstormy Mar 2013 #83

I agree that it is difficult. aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #88

As Exhibit A, I present FreeRepublic.com. Arkana Mar 2013 #116

Good points on food and class. apnu Mar 2013 #102

And Republicans lack sympathy for those union_maid Mar 2013 #97

I don't agree ... not everyone shares the same metabolism or heredity Auggie Mar 2013 #18

Those of us on the other side are not talking about the differences between aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #82

But it is also wrong to assume that things like Type II diabetes are simply "lifestyle" diseases. . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #90

Agreed. aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #93

That's all true, BUT... markpkessinger Mar 2013 #98

Had they created a discount for partiicpating, that would have been acceptable. What they did is no robinlynne Mar 2013 #54

The difference is in wording (possibly even in the reporting) Nihil Mar 2013 #100

I beg to differ. Laelth Mar 2013 #68

Welcome to working in a hospital XanaDUer Mar 2013 #5

hospital kardonb Mar 2013 #8

What is wrong with being fat? N/t alp227 Mar 2013 #23

Obviously, it is unhealthy. n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #45

So Michael Moore and Ray Lewis are unhealthy? n/t alp227 Mar 2013 #47

Certainly not as healthy as they would be bitchkitty Mar 2013 #53

I'm solid muscle and my BMI tells me I am obese Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2013 #64

The Military had problems with the BMI just for that reason. fasttense Mar 2013 #66

You (and Lewis) are exceptions to the rule. bitchkitty Mar 2013 #67

Actually, carrying some excess fat may be better than being lean elias7 Mar 2013 #73

Mild obesity is kind of a broad term. bitchkitty Mar 2013 #75

Actually the whole rule is broken because it does not account for height properly at all MillennialDem Mar 2013 #87

it is being challenged because you said "ray lewis needs to lose weight to be Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2013 #92

Granted, I wasn't sure who Ray Lewis was bitchkitty Mar 2013 #94

that i will not argue with. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2013 #95

obviously? Iris Mar 2013 #51

Would you want a smoker as your doctor/nurse? alp227 Mar 2013 #26

Why would I give a shit if my health care worker was a smoker Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #38

I'm sure I've had more than one doctor or nurse who is smoker. Iris Mar 2013 #52

I don't care. Incitatus Mar 2013 #91

weird question. robinlynne Mar 2013 #114

I don't care if my dr or nurse smokes, as long as I Ilsa Mar 2013 #117

But shouldn't health care providers practice what they preach? n/t alp227 Mar 2013 #118

Hell, you can't get priests to practice what they preach. Ilsa Mar 2013 #119

Im not sure yet how I feel about this BigD_95 Mar 2013 #7

Well let's not stop there Duer 157099 Mar 2013 #29

I have knows obese people to life into their 90's. Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #39

Seriously, what is WebMD planning to do with this info? Jerry442 Mar 2013 #9

it's $1200 dollars where i work.. frylock Mar 2013 #11

I think it's great that they are taking an interest in the health of their employees slackmaster Mar 2013 #12

I just cannot bring myself to believe that Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #15

Of course it's about money slackmaster Mar 2013 #17

Oh, I am sloooow today. LOL nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #19

One of the common apologia for Bloomberg's nonsense are the healthcare costs Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #84

Same thing where i work. secondvariety Mar 2013 #13

First they came after us smokers and the majority did not defend us... Tx4obama Mar 2013 #14

Yup. The insurance model of health coverage keeps getting more and more unworkable all the time. Jerry442 Mar 2013 #20

TX4OBAMA, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Skittles Mar 2013 #24

Fools pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #58

Maybe they're doing it backward? We get a 40% discount for participating in a health program. George II Mar 2013 #16

I just cannot get comfortable with this kind of coercion. Brigid Mar 2013 #21

I'll tell you exactly what they will get Skittles Mar 2013 #25

Squat... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #28

Pay and benefits? nt Llewlladdwr Mar 2013 #34

Is that enough? Brigid Mar 2013 #35

Or your medical information? Nt abelenkpe Mar 2013 #65

Another Disgusting Example supercats Mar 2013 #22

George Orwell was right about Big Brother. Brigid Mar 2013 #27

The only thing Orwell got wrong was the year... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #115

We should just run everyone's genotype at birth. bluedigger Mar 2013 #30

We're getting there Duer 157099 Mar 2013 #31

Don't give them any ideas. Brigid Mar 2013 #32

If they don't sign up, coverage jumps by $50 a month..... Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #36

are they also going to test them for the use of nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, etc. olddad56 Mar 2013 #37

lawsuit waiting to happen. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2013 #41

I seem to remember... jeffrey_pdx Mar 2013 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author jeffrey_pdx Mar 2013 #57

Shame that all that muscle stops you from reading ... Nihil Mar 2013 #99

shame that i lost interest in your missive after the first words of snark and snide Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2013 #107

Your loss. Nihil Mar 2013 #111

this would devolve into a flame war, but i'll just put you on ignore and that's the end of it Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2013 #112

This goes too far...and it's discrimination in a time when so many KoKo Mar 2013 #42

End for profit medical insurance now! Lint Head Mar 2013 #43

End for profit "health insurance". Medicare for all! Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #46

Somewhat clueless reporting, there... krkaufman Mar 2013 #48

best idea yet as far as I'm concerned olddots Mar 2013 #60

CVS has it backwards idahoblue Mar 2013 #49

So... penalize the poor? davidthegnome Mar 2013 #50

If I do not give them the same information like CVS wants, my insurance dings me 600 big ones. Safetykitten Mar 2013 #55

This is why we do not have single-payer or even public option. MindPilot Mar 2013 #59

If the government required this abelenkpe Mar 2013 #61

The RW successfully used that tactic against unions and paying dues, too Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #85

Good on them. They should also ask how many people you sleep with in a year The Straight Story Mar 2013 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Pryderi Mar 2013 #69

It's like an employment act for lawyers. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #70

Companies have done that for years with smoking. They are free to charge sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #71

Good idea in theory... kyeshinka Mar 2013 #72

Many companies already do that ... Myrina Mar 2013 #74

Another example- ruffburr Mar 2013 #78

What if they ask "Have you ever had an abortion; use birth control; Tcell count?" kiranon Mar 2013 #79

I feel like this is getting into an area that is simply too personal. hamsterjill Mar 2013 #86

One of the worst Drug Stores in Existance.... lib2DaBone Mar 2013 #96

Waist/Hip Ratio "better" indicator HockeyMom Mar 2013 #101

I bet they don't give any discount to active gym attendees. davsand Mar 2013 #103

There are ways to promote health that don't involve collecting personal data TriplD Mar 2013 #104

CVS Pharmacy are God...... lib2DaBone Mar 2013 #106

WTF? Really, WTF? How is fucking BMI became a legitimate predictor of someone's health? idwiyo Mar 2013 #108

I smell a lawsuit JCMach1 Mar 2013 #109

They are not doing this to make you healthier... davidn3600 Mar 2013 #110

And what about autoimmune diseases that mess with your metabolism? Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #113