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HiPointDem

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13. of course they're buddhists. buddhism has a long history of association with militarism.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 04:42 AM
Mar 2013
It is generally accepted in the West that Buddhism is a ‘peaceful’ religion. The Western public tends to assume that the doctrinal rejection of violence in Buddhism would make Buddhist pacifists, and often expects Buddhist societies or individual Asian Buddhists to conform to the modern Western standards of ‘peaceful’ behavior. This stereotype – which may well be termed ‘positive Orientalism,’ since it is based on assumption that an ‘Oriental’ religion would be more faithful to its original non-violent teachings than Western Christianity – has been periodically challenged by enthusiastic acquiescence by monastic Buddhism to the most brutal sorts of warfare.

This volume demolishes this stereotype, and produces instead a coherent, nuanced account on the modern Buddhist attitudes towards violence and warfare, which take into consideration both doctrinal logic of Buddhism and the socio-political situation in Asian Buddhist societies. The chapters in this book offer a deeper analysis of ‘Buddhist militarism’ and Buddhist attitudes towards violence than previous volumes, grounded in an awareness of Buddhist doctrines and the recent history of nationalism, as well as the role Buddhism plays in constructions of national identity. The international team of contributors includes scholars from Thailand, Japan, and Korea.

http://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Violence-Militarism-Routledge-Religion/dp/0415536960




In "Canonical Ambiguity and Differential Practices" Frydenlund points out the complicated political and social reasons that have led monks to join in wars. "Pacifism among monks is rare. In many ways war was accepted as a regrettable part of life in the world" (p 107)".

Perhaps the most intriguing entry is Auerback's exploration of the well known book, 'Zen at War" and the general nationalistic fervor shown by Zen Buddhists in Japan for war. Auerback investigates Zen and military chaplaincy in the diary of Soen.

The variety within Buddhism is well expressed in 1977 by Kittivuddho, a leading Thai Buddhist monk, who announced that "killing Communists is not a sin" (p 177).

Nor is he merely a modern aberration. Before Christ was born, monks fought a war with Buddha's relic as a banner. And "throughout Chinese Buddhist history, monks were...seen involved in military conflict and war. In 515, a monk called Faqing rallied behind him more than 50,000 Buddhists" (p 203) to fight with him against the Northern Wei dynasty.

http://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Violence-Militarism-Routledge-Religion/dp/0415536960

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Meanwhile back in the good old USA. When people have money disputes they just shoot your baby. Lint Head Mar 2013 #1
Disgusting News. DavidG Mar 2013 #2
Who invented Kung Fu and why? jberryhill Mar 2013 #5
as well as most of the martial arts. fighting monks, who historically played the same role HiPointDem Mar 2013 #12
It's political defacto7 Mar 2013 #6
Wiccans, Thelemites, and Druids seem to be peacefull now a days. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #8
What other group on Earth has killed more brutally than Christians some aspects is Pacifist. gordianot Mar 2013 #17
It could be that groups of tens of millions aren't nice, clean monoliths. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #25
"Armed Buddhists"? Ken Burch Mar 2013 #3
Thanks for helping me name my band. n/t christx30 Mar 2013 #16
Actually, there are Mennonites with machetes geek tragedy Mar 2013 #18
Killer Quakers & Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #26
We already have Unitarian Jihad Ken Burch Mar 2013 #29
This will tell you how fed up the Buddhists are. They are not taking this anymore. n/t SylviaD Mar 2013 #30
When Buddhist monks take up arms... jberryhill Mar 2013 #4
"Armed Buddhists" are "Buddhists" renate Mar 2013 #7
I think saying they're not Buddhists is strange. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #9
you are making an excellent point renate Mar 2013 #10
I went to a lecture given by a Tibeten Buddhist nun, ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #11
of course they're buddhists. buddhism has a long history of association with militarism. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #13
as I said before... defacto7 Mar 2013 #32
Violence and ethnic cleansing. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #14
it generally happens whenever you depose any power structure, whether it's what we'd HiPointDem Mar 2013 #15
Didn't the US get its ass handed to it by Buddhists... modestybl Mar 2013 #19
This makes me sad... AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #20
The long knives are already out on this thread... a la izquierda Mar 2013 #22
I saw it here also.. AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #23
That thread made me want to vomit... a la izquierda Mar 2013 #24
I had AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #28
I'm sorry. I participated but didn't believe any of what he said about Buddhists. freshwest Mar 2013 #36
I wouldn't worry too much about how it's viewed... defacto7 Mar 2013 #34
I didn't realise there was a problem with anti-Buddhist bigotry in the US... Violet_Crumble Mar 2013 #35
Except that thread was not about factual criticisms. TM99 Mar 2013 #37
consistently practicing love and forgiveness WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #21
This is just so sad. Over a simple dispute in a store 20 people have lost their lives. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #27
Go buddhists!! cosmicone Mar 2013 #31
Yr cheering on Buddhist violence? Seriously? Violet_Crumble Mar 2013 #33
Buddhist violence is not a new concept. cosmicone Mar 2013 #38
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