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29. It's hard to pat yourself on the back when you're sitting on your hands.

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:58 PM

Mar 2013

I have to remember that the fighters who started this revolution 2 years ago are now all mostly dead. They were the ones who were begging us for help. They've been killed and have been replaced with more radicalized fighters. That should surprise no one. They have also been replaced with defectors from the Syrian military, latecomers who couldn't believe there was a problem until the kitchen got too hot.
The revolution was never about religion, it was about tyranny and brutality. So we shouldn't be too proud about patting ourselves on the back for doing nothing.

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Obama’s Syria policy in shambles as Assad opposition squabbles [View all] cqo_000 Mar 2013 OP

The US, UK and France should never have started this armed regime change operation. leveymg Mar 2013 #1

We have no Syria Policy, so it can't very well be in shambles. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #2

We had one (the Petraeus-Clinton covert armed intervention), but that was shut down. leveymg Mar 2013 #3

You think it's a conspiracy. I think it's fecklessness. bemildred Mar 2013 #4

We seem to largely agree: but, the end result may well be what was sought all along. leveymg Mar 2013 #5

It is the decay of empire, plain and simple. bemildred Mar 2013 #7

Just as decay of the Austro-Hungarian & Ottoman Empires & the rush to fill those vacuums led to WW1 leveymg Mar 2013 #8

You've got it. bemildred Mar 2013 #9

Most think of WWI as a European war, but it really started in the Balkans & Turkey in 1912 leveymg Mar 2013 #11

It is a subject that people disagree about. bemildred Mar 2013 #17

We largely agree, and where we disagree, are agreeable about it. That's all too rare. ;-) leveymg Mar 2013 #20

That would take a book, I think, however, in order: bemildred Mar 2013 #25

The covert intervention is ongoing: Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #21

The Petraeus-Clinton program was a more direct covert arming of the opposition. leveymg Mar 2013 #23

the "covert" intervention leads to brilliantly clumsy lies.. Alamuti Lotus Mar 2013 #27

I see the opposite--Obama's policy of standing back a little was validated. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #6

If the opposition wins Syria will be a fundamentalist Islamic state with Sharia law. L0oniX Mar 2013 #10

It's hard to pat yourself on the back when you're sitting on your hands. Triloon Mar 2013 #29

I think the revolution was about the Gulf States seeing a chance to get rid of a rival. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #30

Who the hell has a goal of patting one's self on the back? L0oniX Mar 2013 #32

Our policy has been to do as little as possible geek tragedy Mar 2013 #12

Correct. Nothing is the default strategy, and very often the best strategy. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #13

But never an emotionally satisfying one. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #14

Good analysis. David__77 Mar 2013 #18

But it's how you separate the men from the boys, so to speak. bemildred Mar 2013 #19

Except to help arm the rebels. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #24

Why does Obama have to have a "policy" for stage managing events there? David__77 Mar 2013 #15

I have to admit that I haven't paid very much attention to Syria alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #16

If we make every nation's strife and civil war our business and responsibility, we're seriously TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #22

Being careful not to be involved deeply in Syria Progressive dog Mar 2013 #26

Thank You!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #31

I honestly don't understand what's going on in Syria anymore britaphilter Mar 2013 #28