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54. "Shutting up" is what you'd like everyone to do

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 03:30 PM

Mar 2013

who has any concern about the possibility of a miscarriage of justice.

I absolutely agree with you that the correct suspects have been arrested.
I absolutely agree with you that the police have done their job.

But the fact that no one is allowed to ask questions here is appalling to me. When did this become the "shut up and let the police do their work" board?

When did this board become the "trust authority" board? Or "trust the press" for that matter?

Why are you all so outraged that questions have been asked, questions borne of experience with a justice system that has gone awry with so many innocents in the past? The fact that I have seen miscarriage of justice with other suspects has colored my vision of how justice works. It means we must be ever vigilant when it comes to questioning whether the right people have been arrested.

If you condemn my right to be vigilant and to voice my fears, then this is clearly no longer Democratic Underground.

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Police: Slain Baby, Mom Victims of Random Crime [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2013 OP

To all the naysayers who were questioning if the mother was complicit in this heinous crime, premium Mar 2013 #1

We can hope so. I predict not many will acknowledge geek tragedy Mar 2013 #4

I was sickened by some of the comments I read. premium Mar 2013 #6

It was the full range of middle class snobbery towards geek tragedy Mar 2013 #7

And of course it's not snobbery to assume black boys are guilty. mainer Mar 2013 #14

Oh take that race bullshit out of this. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #18

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #36

A snob who understands this much: mainer Mar 2013 #40

which has nothing to do with this situation chillfactor Mar 2013 #49

"Shutting up" is what you'd like everyone to do mainer Mar 2013 #54

It was not reasonable to point the finger at the mother. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #57

DU is one of the best blogs around chillfactor Mar 2013 #60

Please go back and see my posts on this subject mainer Mar 2013 #61

It's not rational to suggest the mother did it geek tragedy Mar 2013 #63

how far are you going to go to dig yourself further into a hole.... chillfactor Mar 2013 #65

Where? Where did I accuse the mother? mainer Mar 2013 #66

I am a big suppertor of the project Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #111

Ironically, had the mother been arrested, I would have asked questions too mainer Mar 2013 #117

Sometimes stating facts gets one into trouble Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #125

I fear too many here have not outgrown name-calling mainer Mar 2013 #132

the boys are guilty aren't they? n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #71

These ones appear to be. mainer Mar 2013 #86

Was that a point of contention here? nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #88

Yes. When i was called a bigot against white women. mainer Mar 2013 #89

The people citing Susan Smith were engaging in prejudiced, geek tragedy Mar 2013 #91

I never brought up Susan Smith. mainer Mar 2013 #93

You are the one who pointlessly injected race into geek tragedy Mar 2013 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author mainer Mar 2013 #95

The evidence as presented Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #110

I thought I was on Free Republic for a moment Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #109

thanks for posting this geek bench scientist Mar 2013 #2

Eagerly awaiting the apologies from those who said otherwise... riqster Mar 2013 #3

I predict they will respond with geek tragedy Mar 2013 #5

Yep. Wimps, the lot of them. riqster Mar 2013 #8

So I do respond here and agree with you that right people were arrested mainer Mar 2013 #67

A rule in education (and show biz, etc.) riqster Mar 2013 #73

I've restated it about three times on this thread mainer Mar 2013 #85

A pond can hold more than one gun. They are testing the one that they found to verify whether it is AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #102

I outright said it PolitFreak Mar 2013 #70

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #72

Gonna stick with that? premium Mar 2013 #74

Notice the post count. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #75

Good one. premium Mar 2013 #76

Extra points for rhyming! riqster Mar 2013 #79

Are points awarded for sucking up? PolitFreak Mar 2013 #82

He deserves the points riqster Mar 2013 #100

Great way of quashing opinions you don't agree with, ain't it? PolitFreak Mar 2013 #80

Your entire posting history her seems to consist of falsely accusing geek tragedy Mar 2013 #81

Entire? PolitFreak Mar 2013 #83

My mistake: the single topic in which you've geek tragedy Mar 2013 #87

32nd post PolitFreak Mar 2013 #90

But your false accusation directed against geek tragedy Mar 2013 #92

In Europe, my ancestors were to blame for everything PolitFreak Mar 2013 #97

Hiding behind someone else's victimization to justify geek tragedy Mar 2013 #98

Yeah PolitFreak Mar 2013 #99

Hilarious, you falsely accuse a woman of a crime geek tragedy Mar 2013 #101

Indeed RZM Mar 2013 #107

Agreed. But here's what the jury said: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #127

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #123

I didn't follow the story or make any comments about it, but... Bonobo Mar 2013 #126

Here's what I posted over on GD on this subject mainer Mar 2013 #9

It was reasonable within a few hours to hold that view. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #10

It only became clear she didn't pull the trigger when GSR was ruled out mainer Mar 2013 #12

No, the victim blaming began here within minutes of the story being broken geek tragedy Mar 2013 #15

I only found out about it with this thread: mainer Mar 2013 #21

The first clue should have been when they arrested geek tragedy Mar 2013 #22

yep pinning the blame on you is quite appropriate... chillfactor Mar 2013 #38

Bigotry against white women? mainer Mar 2013 #43

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #52

Please define bigotry for me. mainer Mar 2013 #55

speaking up is one thing chillfactor Mar 2013 #62

Please point to any of my posts where I said "she did it." mainer Mar 2013 #64

Geek, I hadn't seen that and won't add to it. There was a take on her looks there: freshwest Mar 2013 #96

And may I add, the initial news reports... mainer Mar 2013 #11

One of the boys was turned in by his aunt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #16

And that happened the first day, did it? mainer Mar 2013 #19

The arrests were made that same day. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #20

And police NEVER arrest the wrong people mainer Mar 2013 #25

There was no reasonable factual predicate geek tragedy Mar 2013 #26

No, mothers are never guilty of child murder. mainer Mar 2013 #29

That is not a reason to accuse her. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #32

The police made the arrests based on the aunt turning in the 15 yo boy premium Mar 2013 #30

Let's take a tour of the way-back machine mainer Mar 2013 #34

A few points geek tragedy Mar 2013 #39

Funny, then, that Huffington Post made no mention of it mainer Mar 2013 #51

That was a different aunt. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #53

Wrong aunt. premium Mar 2013 #56

First DU post of news about aunt Obley was on 3/26 mainer Mar 2013 #131

I'm in no way claiming that all should have known. premium Mar 2013 #46

I'd imagine that as many as three people who voiced "concerns" were sincere LanternWaste Mar 2013 #42

So to whom do we apologize for having concerns the boys might be innocent? mainer Mar 2013 #13

Smearing a crime victim is not the same geek tragedy Mar 2013 #17

Due process is what we all want mainer Mar 2013 #23

The mother gave a desription, not a photo ID, at first. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #24

Right. "He's a husky 17-year-old black boy." mainer Mar 2013 #27

You. Were. Wrong. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #28

"Wrongful behavior?" Asking questions? mainer Mar 2013 #31

Recklessly accusing a crime victim of murdering her geek tragedy Mar 2013 #33

Accused her? No, raised questions. mainer Mar 2013 #37

Every single available and relevant fact geek tragedy Mar 2013 #41

exactly right. alphafemale Mar 2013 #77

one told me that the mother was "not the real victim" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #78

give it up already.... chillfactor Mar 2013 #45

hen what evidence is there that the "concerns" were sincere? LanternWaste Mar 2013 #47

Need moar guns. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #35

The only thing that will save a baby from geek tragedy Mar 2013 #44

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #48

First post and it's to smear a crime victim. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #50

her sick post did not last very long... chillfactor Mar 2013 #58

That was fast. premium Mar 2013 #59

Bless that little baby boy democrank Mar 2013 #68

The mother--I can't even imagine how geek tragedy Mar 2013 #69

Here's hoping the poor woman doesn't look at DU riqster Mar 2013 #84

I think it's OK to question the circumstances surrounding a crime moobu2 Mar 2013 #103

Hoo boy. Good luck. mainer Mar 2013 #104

What did you mean by "spidey senses should be tingling" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #106

It's one thing to say "let's wait for all the facts" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #105

The only thing they had was....things like it have happened before. alphafemale Mar 2013 #112

There was plenty of hatred directed towards the mother. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #113

People actually suggested she hired someone to kill the baby. alphafemale Mar 2013 #119

They suggested she was guilty because geek tragedy Mar 2013 #120

And the screams of rage from loony league Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #108

Calling it "random" is a comforting myth to help people avoid thinking about what actually happened slackmaster Mar 2013 #114

Not comforting at all. "Random" means geek tragedy Mar 2013 #115

I don't believe it would have happened to me slackmaster Mar 2013 #116

Well, sure predators pick on those whom they perceive geek tragedy Mar 2013 #118

By being aware of your surroundings, you are actively reducing your likelihood of becoming a victim slackmaster Mar 2013 #121

I have terrible hand-eye coordination. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #122

Yes, a disproportionate amount of violent crime is minority-on-minority slackmaster Mar 2013 #124

the mere mention Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #128

someone posted about this person shooting another person in a previous incident JI7 Mar 2013 #129

And that other robbery victim was an adult male. LisaL Mar 2013 #130