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85. I've restated it about three times on this thread

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 04:42 PM

Mar 2013

THE RIGHT PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED. The new evidence - assuming the gun in the pond is the murder weapon -- is that the boys are guilty.

I could say it a thousand times, and I'll still be called a bigot and stupid and a jerk and a coward (for not admitting what I JUST admitted!) How many times should I say it until it counts as an admission that I was mistaken in wondering about the mother's involvement?

You may notice that I haven't called anyone names; instead, the schoolyard name-calling has all been directed at me. I've tried to maintain at least a modicum of civility.

You're right about this audience. This one is going to throw rocks at whoever has the temerity to step onstage and try to have a conversation about why all this happened. I don't think it's possible to have that conversation here.

And btw, I stated my relief at the physical evidence YESTERDAY:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=435654

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Police: Slain Baby, Mom Victims of Random Crime [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2013 OP

To all the naysayers who were questioning if the mother was complicit in this heinous crime, premium Mar 2013 #1

We can hope so. I predict not many will acknowledge geek tragedy Mar 2013 #4

I was sickened by some of the comments I read. premium Mar 2013 #6

It was the full range of middle class snobbery towards geek tragedy Mar 2013 #7

And of course it's not snobbery to assume black boys are guilty. mainer Mar 2013 #14

Oh take that race bullshit out of this. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #18

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #36

A snob who understands this much: mainer Mar 2013 #40

which has nothing to do with this situation chillfactor Mar 2013 #49

"Shutting up" is what you'd like everyone to do mainer Mar 2013 #54

It was not reasonable to point the finger at the mother. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #57

DU is one of the best blogs around chillfactor Mar 2013 #60

Please go back and see my posts on this subject mainer Mar 2013 #61

It's not rational to suggest the mother did it geek tragedy Mar 2013 #63

how far are you going to go to dig yourself further into a hole.... chillfactor Mar 2013 #65

Where? Where did I accuse the mother? mainer Mar 2013 #66

I am a big suppertor of the project Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #111

Ironically, had the mother been arrested, I would have asked questions too mainer Mar 2013 #117

Sometimes stating facts gets one into trouble Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #125

I fear too many here have not outgrown name-calling mainer Mar 2013 #132

the boys are guilty aren't they? n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2013 #71

These ones appear to be. mainer Mar 2013 #86

Was that a point of contention here? nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #88

Yes. When i was called a bigot against white women. mainer Mar 2013 #89

The people citing Susan Smith were engaging in prejudiced, geek tragedy Mar 2013 #91

I never brought up Susan Smith. mainer Mar 2013 #93

You are the one who pointlessly injected race into geek tragedy Mar 2013 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author mainer Mar 2013 #95

The evidence as presented Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #110

I thought I was on Free Republic for a moment Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #109

thanks for posting this geek bench scientist Mar 2013 #2

Eagerly awaiting the apologies from those who said otherwise... riqster Mar 2013 #3

I predict they will respond with geek tragedy Mar 2013 #5

Yep. Wimps, the lot of them. riqster Mar 2013 #8

So I do respond here and agree with you that right people were arrested mainer Mar 2013 #67

A rule in education (and show biz, etc.) riqster Mar 2013 #73

I've restated it about three times on this thread mainer Mar 2013 #85

A pond can hold more than one gun. They are testing the one that they found to verify whether it is AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #102

I outright said it PolitFreak Mar 2013 #70

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #72

Gonna stick with that? premium Mar 2013 #74

Notice the post count. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #75

Good one. premium Mar 2013 #76

Extra points for rhyming! riqster Mar 2013 #79

Are points awarded for sucking up? PolitFreak Mar 2013 #82

He deserves the points riqster Mar 2013 #100

Great way of quashing opinions you don't agree with, ain't it? PolitFreak Mar 2013 #80

Your entire posting history her seems to consist of falsely accusing geek tragedy Mar 2013 #81

Entire? PolitFreak Mar 2013 #83

My mistake: the single topic in which you've geek tragedy Mar 2013 #87

32nd post PolitFreak Mar 2013 #90

But your false accusation directed against geek tragedy Mar 2013 #92

In Europe, my ancestors were to blame for everything PolitFreak Mar 2013 #97

Hiding behind someone else's victimization to justify geek tragedy Mar 2013 #98

Yeah PolitFreak Mar 2013 #99

Hilarious, you falsely accuse a woman of a crime geek tragedy Mar 2013 #101

Indeed RZM Mar 2013 #107

Agreed. But here's what the jury said: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #127

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #123

I didn't follow the story or make any comments about it, but... Bonobo Mar 2013 #126

Here's what I posted over on GD on this subject mainer Mar 2013 #9

It was reasonable within a few hours to hold that view. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #10

It only became clear she didn't pull the trigger when GSR was ruled out mainer Mar 2013 #12

No, the victim blaming began here within minutes of the story being broken geek tragedy Mar 2013 #15

I only found out about it with this thread: mainer Mar 2013 #21

The first clue should have been when they arrested geek tragedy Mar 2013 #22

yep pinning the blame on you is quite appropriate... chillfactor Mar 2013 #38

Bigotry against white women? mainer Mar 2013 #43

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #52

Please define bigotry for me. mainer Mar 2013 #55

speaking up is one thing chillfactor Mar 2013 #62

Please point to any of my posts where I said "she did it." mainer Mar 2013 #64

Geek, I hadn't seen that and won't add to it. There was a take on her looks there: freshwest Mar 2013 #96

And may I add, the initial news reports... mainer Mar 2013 #11

One of the boys was turned in by his aunt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #16

And that happened the first day, did it? mainer Mar 2013 #19

The arrests were made that same day. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #20

And police NEVER arrest the wrong people mainer Mar 2013 #25

There was no reasonable factual predicate geek tragedy Mar 2013 #26

No, mothers are never guilty of child murder. mainer Mar 2013 #29

That is not a reason to accuse her. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #32

The police made the arrests based on the aunt turning in the 15 yo boy premium Mar 2013 #30

Let's take a tour of the way-back machine mainer Mar 2013 #34

A few points geek tragedy Mar 2013 #39

Funny, then, that Huffington Post made no mention of it mainer Mar 2013 #51

That was a different aunt. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #53

Wrong aunt. premium Mar 2013 #56

First DU post of news about aunt Obley was on 3/26 mainer Mar 2013 #131

I'm in no way claiming that all should have known. premium Mar 2013 #46

I'd imagine that as many as three people who voiced "concerns" were sincere LanternWaste Mar 2013 #42

So to whom do we apologize for having concerns the boys might be innocent? mainer Mar 2013 #13

Smearing a crime victim is not the same geek tragedy Mar 2013 #17

Due process is what we all want mainer Mar 2013 #23

The mother gave a desription, not a photo ID, at first. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #24

Right. "He's a husky 17-year-old black boy." mainer Mar 2013 #27

You. Were. Wrong. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #28

"Wrongful behavior?" Asking questions? mainer Mar 2013 #31

Recklessly accusing a crime victim of murdering her geek tragedy Mar 2013 #33

Accused her? No, raised questions. mainer Mar 2013 #37

Every single available and relevant fact geek tragedy Mar 2013 #41

exactly right. alphafemale Mar 2013 #77

one told me that the mother was "not the real victim" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #78

give it up already.... chillfactor Mar 2013 #45

hen what evidence is there that the "concerns" were sincere? LanternWaste Mar 2013 #47

Need moar guns. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #35

The only thing that will save a baby from geek tragedy Mar 2013 #44

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #48

First post and it's to smear a crime victim. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #50

her sick post did not last very long... chillfactor Mar 2013 #58

That was fast. premium Mar 2013 #59

Bless that little baby boy democrank Mar 2013 #68

The mother--I can't even imagine how geek tragedy Mar 2013 #69

Here's hoping the poor woman doesn't look at DU riqster Mar 2013 #84

I think it's OK to question the circumstances surrounding a crime moobu2 Mar 2013 #103

Hoo boy. Good luck. mainer Mar 2013 #104

What did you mean by "spidey senses should be tingling" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #106

It's one thing to say "let's wait for all the facts" geek tragedy Mar 2013 #105

The only thing they had was....things like it have happened before. alphafemale Mar 2013 #112

There was plenty of hatred directed towards the mother. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #113

People actually suggested she hired someone to kill the baby. alphafemale Mar 2013 #119

They suggested she was guilty because geek tragedy Mar 2013 #120

And the screams of rage from loony league Kelvin Mace Mar 2013 #108

Calling it "random" is a comforting myth to help people avoid thinking about what actually happened slackmaster Mar 2013 #114

Not comforting at all. "Random" means geek tragedy Mar 2013 #115

I don't believe it would have happened to me slackmaster Mar 2013 #116

Well, sure predators pick on those whom they perceive geek tragedy Mar 2013 #118

By being aware of your surroundings, you are actively reducing your likelihood of becoming a victim slackmaster Mar 2013 #121

I have terrible hand-eye coordination. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #122

Yes, a disproportionate amount of violent crime is minority-on-minority slackmaster Mar 2013 #124

the mere mention Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #128

someone posted about this person shooting another person in a previous incident JI7 Mar 2013 #129

And that other robbery victim was an adult male. LisaL Mar 2013 #130